Back in 1998, I had a friend who was a cop show off the .25 Taurus he had bought his girlfriend. I enviously expressed my wish to buy a handgun. The Brady 5 day check was still in force at the time so I had never bothered to go thru the process. Well, my friend, the cop, told me we'd just go to the same store and get the gun with his Brady check. Not knowing any better, I agreed. Well, the store obliged even though I wrote them the check myself. My friend just told me to tell anyone that asked that I had bought it from him in a private sale. I had no idea this was a "straw purchase" and it was illegal. I just thought we were "cutting red tape." So, my question is this. Do I need to DO anything? I mean, if I ever have to use this gun in self defense, I don't want to be put away for violating a gun law! What should I do? I live in Louisiana, BTW, if that has any bearing.....
Is my gun legal?
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Proves you paid for the weapon. That's all I have for my wife's Hipoint. It was good enough for Cali cops when it was stolen.
Well, my buddy, the nutty cop, had told me to just say I bought it from him in a private sale. However, I had worried about that angle in case Brady made the store owner make a copy of the check or something. But yeah, I DO have a copy of the receipt. 
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A straw purchase is when someone buys the gun for you because you are not able to buy it because of legal problems. As long as you are not prohibited from owning a firearm, you should be fine. I don't know the statute of limitations of this kind of thing but you should be fine. Just leave well enough alone and don't get involved with dealings like this in the future.
A straw purchase is when someone buys the gun for you because you are not able to buy it because of legal problems. As long as you are not prohibited from owning a firearm, you should be fine. I don't know the statute of limitations of this kind of thing but you should be fine. Just leave well enough alone and don't get involved with dealings like this in the future.
As long as you are legally able to own a gun, there is no problem. If anything, have your buddy draw up a bill of sale for the gun (include the serial number) and have it notarized.
I did the same thing once for my brother-in-law before he got the CWP, and he didn't want to wait the 5 days, so I purchased it for him. I asked a cop friend of mine if it was legal, and he told me that as long as he can legally purchase it, its fine.
I did the same thing once for my brother-in-law before he got the CWP, and he didn't want to wait the 5 days, so I purchased it for him. I asked a cop friend of mine if it was legal, and he told me that as long as he can legally purchase it, its fine.
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Dude, I can't believe you have nothing better to worry about for the last 10 years? You need to meet some Jewish friends, they will teach you the meaning of guilt which will let you begin worrying about things that happen on a day-to-day basis
BTW, as a Gun Dealer myself, you don't have to worry about this, as already pointed out a "straw purchase" is when someone purchases a gun for a person who is not allowed to legally own a gun, unless of course you were not allowed to own a gun at the time this was purchased!
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If you should shoot someone with a .25, and if they find out about it, boy are they going to be pissed. Sell it and get a .38 / 9mm minimum. Those make cute little pimp guns, but for serious self defense you should bet your life on something a bit more substantial.
I sell firearms for a living, a straw purchase is anybody buying a gun for someone else knowning that they cant get one on there on. they may have arrest records but also it can be as little as a PO box on there DL and they dont have anything with there main adress on it.Could be they got delayed with there NICS check and dont wanna wait so they try to get a friend to get it for them. As for the GUN your cop friend got you dont worry bout it, its said and done deal, the store you got it from would be the one in trouble anyways.
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I tend to agree with Pio here. I counsel people to get a caliber they can handle effectively, but my heart goes with the heavier caliber crowd.
I'd also hate to be on the receiving end of a well-placed .25 or .22, but I'd hate to be on the receiving end of even a poorly-placed .40 or .45 +P load.
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re 25 auto
someone told me that a 25 auto wasn,t for serious self defence work but that if ya emptied it in a person at least you would have a better chance at the fist fight that followed. lol. serious would that be federal law? I have relatives in looseanna, thought they was pretty ok with various state laws.
someone told me that a 25 auto wasn,t for serious self defence work but that if ya emptied it in a person at least you would have a better chance at the fist fight that followed. lol. serious would that be federal law? I have relatives in looseanna, thought they was pretty ok with various state laws.
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how many times have others done the same thing?probably 100 thousand.every private sale would be in jeopardy.all he did was give you the sales slip after you bought it from him.get rid of the sales slip. you are causing more trouble by yapping about it.
how many times have others done the same thing?probably 100 thousand.every private sale would be in jeopardy.all he did was give you the sales slip after you bought it from him.get rid of the sales slip. you are causing more trouble by yapping about it.
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I picked up some 35 grain Hornady XTP for my Beretta 25 auto and shot them through a chrono. Low was 990 fps and high was 1080 fps. I sure as heck don't want to be in front of it when it goes off. I carry it because it is so small and I can carry it anywhere, back pocket, shirt pocket, jacket pocket and it is a last resort so I figure 9 shots in someones face is probably going to make them change there mind. I really don't want to kill someone if I don't absolutely have to and the 25 sorta fits the task. If that were the case I would carry my 1911 colt or 357 or 41 mag.
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Be careful of interstate activity
I was poking around this afternoon and stumbled onto a website describing the gun law problems of a person in Missouri. This person got into potential fed trouble because he used his firearm illegally in Mo. Since the gun was not manufactured in Mo. seems the fed could get involved because at some point in the life of that firearm, it had moved from one state to another.
That seems like a catch all for the feds. But it is a door that is open - at least the way that I read. The feds don't always walk through the door.
So be cautious of the interstate thing.
I was poking around this afternoon and stumbled onto a website describing the gun law problems of a person in Missouri. This person got into potential fed trouble because he used his firearm illegally in Mo. Since the gun was not manufactured in Mo. seems the fed could get involved because at some point in the life of that firearm, it had moved from one state to another.
That seems like a catch all for the feds. But it is a door that is open - at least the way that I read. The feds don't always walk through the door.
So be cautious of the interstate thing.
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Thing is Varmint Hunter, before the 1968 gun act, trade between states occurred freely, in fact if you saw a gun you liked in the mechanics illustrated, for example all you had to do was send in your money and the gun was shipped right to you! Nowadays if you want to buy a gun from out of state you need a FFL (federally licensed gun dealer) As a gun dealer part of my job is to ship firearms for one person to another across state lines. Just to keep the ATF people happy I have to write down each gun I receive into my aquisition book, same goes for any gun I send, that is written down in my disposition book. That way the magical government can get a warm, fuzzy feeling like everything (guns) is being tracked all over our scared& pussified country. See the real problem with our country concerning guns (as I see it) is the only gun the Lazy, Ineffective Government can actually control is the guns we Honest people own. See it is impossible to make a criminal use an FFL to ship their guns across state lines, so their illegal guns cannot be traced. Although it is pointless(usually) to keep on watching honest people, waiting for them to turn dishonest, it is the only easy thing the Lazy, mostly useless gov't can do. It reminds me of the tired old joke where a little kid is searching for his quarter at night. He looks& he looks, finally someone comes over to help. The helper asks "is this where you lost your quarter?" Kid says "no, but the light is better over here!"
Well that's how it seems to me, I'm just glad to be living in Arizona where I can (and do) choose to wear my gun on the outside of my body all day long!
Well that's how it seems to me, I'm just glad to be living in Arizona where I can (and do) choose to wear my gun on the outside of my body all day long!
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Well said bill.
There are many enemies of the Republic hidden in plain sight, and one of the easiest way to id them is to ask folks about guns & victim disarmament - oh did I say that - I meant gun control.
Makes me sad for my kids for what kind country they are going to inherit from us.
There are many enemies of the Republic hidden in plain sight, and one of the easiest way to id them is to ask folks about guns & victim disarmament - oh did I say that - I meant gun control.
Makes me sad for my kids for what kind country they are going to inherit from us.
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I hear you there VH, I'm glad I don't have a wife or kids for much the same reason.
I don't know if I would have had the nerve to even get my FFL if I had been faced with the possibility of my wife or kids having to wonder how they were going to eat & pay rent with daddy (me) tossed in jail cause I pissed off the wrong people in the gov't one day (a very real possibility considering my bad attitude and readiness to voice my opinion!)
As a Locksmith/ Gun Dealer I get a chance everyday to voice my opinion asked for or not to a fairly captive audience (my clients) Some of them come by my shop later and buy their first gun, many come and have guns transferred in. A few will quickly whisper (in hushed tones) after I give my bill& announce that "Hey I sell guns now too!" That they don't want their wife or husband to know, and please don't tell them! To these misquided few I tell my story of how I was beaten by three men, and how, after they took my wallet & I called the police I learned first hand that If You Are Not Willing To Learn to Protect Yourself, it will likely be too late for anyone else to protect you!
Needless to say, the officer I spoke with that day started out by laughing at me for thinking the police were willing to come to my aid, then told me "those guys and your money is long gone!" When I protested that I would like them rounded up before they beat someone else, he just hung up on me.
It has been a real learning experience for me, maybe now I'm a bit too paranoid what with the two guns,extra mags, pepper spray and two knives I carry every day, but I tell you one thing, It hasn't ever happened again and I have waited almost 20 years for some criminal to feel lucky and try it!
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I don't know if I would have had the nerve to even get my FFL if I had been faced with the possibility of my wife or kids having to wonder how they were going to eat & pay rent with daddy (me) tossed in jail cause I pissed off the wrong people in the gov't one day (a very real possibility considering my bad attitude and readiness to voice my opinion!)
As a Locksmith/ Gun Dealer I get a chance everyday to voice my opinion asked for or not to a fairly captive audience (my clients) Some of them come by my shop later and buy their first gun, many come and have guns transferred in. A few will quickly whisper (in hushed tones) after I give my bill& announce that "Hey I sell guns now too!" That they don't want their wife or husband to know, and please don't tell them! To these misquided few I tell my story of how I was beaten by three men, and how, after they took my wallet & I called the police I learned first hand that If You Are Not Willing To Learn to Protect Yourself, it will likely be too late for anyone else to protect you!
Needless to say, the officer I spoke with that day started out by laughing at me for thinking the police were willing to come to my aid, then told me "those guys and your money is long gone!" When I protested that I would like them rounded up before they beat someone else, he just hung up on me.
It has been a real learning experience for me, maybe now I'm a bit too paranoid what with the two guns,extra mags, pepper spray and two knives I carry every day, but I tell you one thing, It hasn't ever happened again and I have waited almost 20 years for some criminal to feel lucky and try it!
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The Feds will use any excuse to exercise the interstate commerce clause. If they can show the gun was made in Mo, left the state to a distributor and was sold to a dealer back in the state they will puff up their chests and say "its our jusristiction". I know its assinine, but they do what they want.
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