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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by rem870forever, Nov 24, 2011.
I live in the rogue valley and I saw a mosin nagant for cheap so I was wondering if the ammo was
Check here. http://http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/7.62x54mm
Or here http://http://ammoseek.com/
This is what I last bought.
Yes it is!
The great thing about the ammo is you can buy the pricier hunting ammo or even competition ammo if you want, but it is REALLY cheap. IF you go to ammunitionstore.com, the surplus crates (440 rounds) go for around $86, thats 20 cents a round for a full sized kickass rifle round! heres the link:
Ammunitionstore.com - 7.62x54r Ammo 148gr FMJ Waterproof Spam Can Russian Mfg 440 Rounds for sale! Cheap, low, bulk, wholesale pricing!
Mosins are cheap too, I've seen some as cheap as $75
gun-deals.com - User-Submitted Gun & Ammunition Deals
Are there any that come in black?
WOW!! Check this price out.
Russia 7.62 x54r ammo 148gr FMJ
That's an awesome price!
Not scoring points.
Buy 2, keep one original and paint the other.
Only way you can get a "black" mosin is to by an after market stock and ruin a great gun. Ooops did i say ruin? I ment sporterize. Or you can stain/paint it.
No you were right the first time around. The correct term is "ruin". Well, I guess fugly would work too. I stained mine, colonial walnut, turned out pretty nice too. I'll bet an ebony stain on one would be downright sexy.
I was digging through my "given" guns and found a mosin i knew i had and one i didnt. The known one has been sporterized totally. The unknown one is orginal except it has been stained "Egyptian" black satin. Its pretty radical looking with that black wood stock and blue-ish/brown metal. By given i mean the guns i have worked off from my master.
Yes, 7.62x54r ammunition is very cheap especially compared to other calibers like .308, 30-06, and 30-30.
The fun of shooting the Mosin is simply hard to explain.
The first one I got was a M44, I was thinking
"ehh, I'll shoot 6 rounds or so and put it away"
Over 80 rounds later I was hooked.
Fun thing about Mosins is they're so cheap, you
can get synthetic stocks, and two cost less than
one of many other rifles.
AMMO? Can't think of the last time I paid more than
90$ for a sealed can of 440 rounds, shipped.
Is the m44 better than the 91 30
Depends on what you mean by better. I want am M44 badly for the compactness and the cool factor. The 91/30 is inherently supposed to be more accurate, but many of them have seen much more wear and tear and they're accuracy had suffered for it.
If you get lucky, you can get your hands on a 91/30 like mine that holds minute of soda can at 100 yards. But an M44 is my next step in mosinitis. After all the other stuff on my wish list.
I should add too that my bore is midnight dark. So full of rust pits it's like Lindsey Lohan's freckles. Like I said, I just got lucky. Heck, it almost looks furry.
if i can find one cheap enough, i'm going to have to get me one. also i think i read somewhere the ballistics were pretty close to the 30-06.
I've looked at the ballistics, and what I can tell you only really applies to the velocity and trajectory with comparable bullet weights.
At less than 400 yards, the .30-06 has a flatter trajectory and higher velocity, generally speaking with comparable bullet weights and such.
Beyond 400, the .30-06 begins to lose velocity and experience bullet drop much faster than the 7.62X54r because of the latter's much better BC.
At 400 yards is also where the 7.62X54r begins to outshine the .30-06 in velocity and trajectory. At that distance the r actually has a higher velocity and flatter trajectory, and maintains such for a longer distance. At 1k yards, the drop for the .30-06 is something like around 33 feet, while the drop for the other is around 26 feet. At that distance the 7.62X54r also hits with quite a bit more force, exact number not recalled at the moment.