Input on Century C93

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by njjohnson, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. njjohnson

    njjohnson New Member

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    Ok, so I have a crucial decision to make. I have two guns I'm looking at- Norinco SKS and Century C93 Sporter. I have shot the SKS and really like it. I have not shot the C93, so I don't know. Any input on the quality and accuracy of the C93 would be most appreciated.
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    A Norinco SKS is a rock solid platform. Generally pretty accurate (for a Chicom mass produced rifle), reliable and has plenty of accessories available (if that is what floats your boat).

    The C-93 is a US made clone of the HK-93. The primary difference is it has a faster twist (1/9.5) barrel than the HK (1/12). Century has a history of spotty QC with this platform (CETME). I understand they no longer employ the monkeys that used to assemble their rifles and quality has improved. Before you purchase any roller delayed blowback rifle like this, you must first understand a bit about how they work and "headspace". Learn what bolt gap is and what a ground bolt means to "false gap". If the rifle is assembled correctly, it is a wonderful platform. Incorrectly assembled they are a PITA and potentially dangerous.

    Not really fair to compare the two. The SKS is designed to be a 10 shot carbine with fixed magazine. The 93 is a semi-auto version of the West German assault rifle.

    Depending on which caliber suits your needs, either gun very workable.
     

  3. signofbarsoom

    signofbarsoom New Member

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    I was in the same position. I have a co-worker that will sell me a 1953 Russian SKS (rebuild) for $325. Or, I have seen the C-93 for sale for $499.

    SKS- First, I'm pissed off because they were much cheaper not long ago and I want to find a better deal! Whether I will or not is still in question. However, I liked the rifle after taking it home for the weekend. I enjoyed the history. I liked the size. I did not fire it but 7.62x39 is affordable. Also, from what I have seen, parts are easy and cheap to get.

    C-93- Despite the fact that they may or may not have issues, I would rather have a higher capacity semi auto laying around. I have a limited budget and small collection right now and want to fill the voids with what I feel would be the most (1) utilitarian, (2) unique and (3) varied arms I can find.
    The C-93 is (1) a modern carbine that will look at home with a red dot sight on it. (2) It is less common than a AR or AK. (3) I already have an older Russian rifle in my collection, a Mosin Nogant. Also, I think the look damn sexy and when they are gone, they are gone. There may be an SKS in my future. But I think it will be easier to find one at a decent price in a few years than it will a HK clone.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    if your looking at that i would save up for a better rifle. M1A AK47 AR15 come rapidly to mind.
     
  5. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I'm not sure if you've noticed, but there are magazines for the SKS that hold more than ten rounds. I have a couple of Tapco 20 rounders for my SKS and a metal 30ish rounder. It is very simple to swap the original out for these higher cap mags. They are also removable if you don't like stripper clip reloading. I like the 20's; 20 rounds in a box & 1 box = 1 full mag.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Mounting a red dot on an HK clone is a fairly expensive proposition.
     
  7. signofbarsoom

    signofbarsoom New Member

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    Orangello,
    Ive seen this but have also read many reports of feeding problems with the conversions. I take it you don't?

    Robocop10mm,
    This wont work?
    UTG HK Low Profile Universal Mount for MP5/G3 etc [LEA-MNT-P668] - $19.95 : Area 51 Tactical, 334 375-7153

    Oh, and dont get me wrong. There will be more guns down the road. I'm intriuqed with the idea of building an AR:D
     
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  8. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I have had two failures to feed (of a couple thousand rounds), but i think that may have been more related to cold hands & poor mag loading. :eek: Generally, i have had no real problems with the tapco mags. I do have my SKS in a tapco stock as well; perhaps that makes some difference?
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    To find a mount that will actually work and stay working can be expensive. The UTG mount may work and may continue to work. Many folks have tried various mounts and been VERY disappointed. Some report acceptable results.

    The platform is not really designed for optics.
     
  10. Sarnesr

    Sarnesr New Member

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    I own several of both. I own a few older SKS's, a G3 and CETME. I guess it comes down to a few things for me.
    First is how much do you have to spend on ammo? 7.62x39 is cheaper then x51.
    Second, what are your plans for it? A MBR? Defense? Target shooting or hunting?
    Third is are you going to change it any? IE: add optics, change stock.
    These are just of the few things you should look at before you decide what to get. I am sure you will get a lot of good info from the folks here.
    As for me, I like the SKS because I can ALWAYS get ammo and it ALWAYS says "BANG" when I pull the trigger.
    Not sure if I was much help, but there it is.

    Robert
     
  11. signofbarsoom

    signofbarsoom New Member

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    Thanks Robert! I don't hunt. I'm not much of a shot. Mostly for fun and just possibly doomsday, but I like to tell myself that wont happen! Anyway, for me it's too late. Check out my C-93 review in the Range Report...
     
  12. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I've got a Russian SKS

    Put it in a poly stock and droped the fixed max for high cap detachables the day i bought it 14 years ago.

    The only FTF's I've had is with 1 extended 40 rnd mag. The steel 20rnd & 30 rnd mags feed flawlessly.

    Oh yeah, and i paid $75.00 for it. Army buddy was getting a divorce and needed the cash, but again, that was 14 years ago.
     
  13. Phelenwolf

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    I remember when you could get a case, yes I said a case of Soviet SKS's for around $100. No one was famliar with them and no one wanted them.
    I have a Norinco and a Yugo SKS that I like to shoot but they do not compare to my Cetme or FAL. I am saving up to get a DPMS .308 or a Springfield M1A. Not sure what i will get yet. Maybe both!
     
  14. ARnoob

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    Here ya go....


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4e8MnPbv_g]YouTube - Century Arms C93 Sporter with Shockwave Clipped and Pinned SUO lower H&K 93 Clone Test Session[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFxGTKOws2c]YouTube - Shockwave Clipped & Pinned SUO Lower on Century Arms C93 Sporter HK 93 Clone[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GpG0suzeUA]YouTube - Century Arms C93 Sporter (HK 33/53/93 Clone) Pete http://johnny556x45.blogspot.com/[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy2YtR-4JAg&feature=related]YouTube - Century Arms C93 Sporter (HK 33/53/93 Clone) Andy http://johnny556x45.blogspot.com/[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBthEmrf5Zg]YouTube - Century Arms C93 Sporter (HK 33/53/93 Clone) Part II...success!!! http://johnny556x45.blogspot.com/[/ame]
     
  15. bacl2000

    bacl2000 New Member

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    Glad to see your c93 is working out. After a few hundreds round be sure to check the headspace, as some of the Century builds had issues