Injured vet loses guns

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by bkt, May 15, 2012.

  1. bkt

    bkt New Member

    Injured Vet's guns stolen by D.C. gov't
    After being injured on his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, Lt. Augustine Kim spent the night in a D.C. jail for possessing unregistered guns.

    Mr. Kim was transporting his firearms from his parents’ house in New Jersey to South Carolina when he stopped at Walter Reed in Washington for a medical appointment in the summer of 2010.

    After being pulled over, handcuffed, arrested, thrown in jail overnight, his guns were confiscated by the city.

    In the end, the platoon leader felt forced to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge, which was later dismissed, but the District still refuses to return to him $10,000 worth of firearms and parts. The national guardsman will deploy to Kosovo this summer. The city should return his property before he leaves to serve our nation overseas for the third time.

    Wounded Vet

    Mr. Kim, an M1A1 Abrams main battle tank platoon leader, was the liaison officer to a specialized unit in Afghanistan, when he was injured in a vehicle crash. He broke multiple bones on the left side of his face and shattered his right arm. He was medivaced to Germany, where he spent two weeks getting treatment. He then spent three months in and out of the hospital at Walter Reed to get necessary facial surgery to fix his cracked lower orbit.

    Before deploying, the soldier had taken his gun collection to his parents’ house in New Jersey for safe storage. At the end of his recovery, he drove to the Garden State to pick up the supply and transport it to his home in Charleston.

    He had one Colt Carbine AR15 rifle 6920 5.56/.223, a Beretta 92S in 9mm, a custom Springfield Armory 1911 in .45 caliber. The national guardsman’s hobby is building and working on 1911 models, so he had spare parts, including a frame, barrel and upper receiver.

    Arrested Driving Through D.C.

    Returning to South Carolina on June 30, 2010, Mr. Kim stopped at Walter Reed for a doctor’s appointment. Afterwards, he got lost while driving his two-door Honda Civic in downtown D.C. in the evening. He was pulled over by police.

    The officer said that his driver’s license had been suspended. He was unaware of this. He found out the next morning that it was wrongly suspended due to a clerical error in which North Carolina incorrectly reported to South Carolina that he didn't pay a speeding ticket. Mr. Kim called and had this cleared up the next morning.

    However, because of the suspended license, the D.C. police officer called for backup, and told Mr. Kim he would have to go to the police station. Then the cops asked Mr. Kim if they could search his vehicle. The lieutenant agreed because his guns were properly locked in a case in the trunk, in compliance with federal firearm transport laws. Mr. Kim was handcuffed and told to sit on the curb during the search.

    He recalled that the officers inspected the collection and “were upset about the fact that I had the AR-15, which D.C. considers to be an ‘assault weapon.’” The model of rifle is illegal in the District, but not in his home state.
    The officers then told Mr. Kim he was in violation for the carrying firearms outside the home (in his vehicle) in the District. The nation’s capital does not acknowledge the right to bear arms, so there are no carry rights.

    “I told them I had been under the impression that as long as the guns were locked in the back, with the ammunition separate, that I was allowed to transport them,” Mr. Kim told me in an interview. “They said, ‘That may be true, however, since you stopped at Walter Reed, that make you in violation of the registration laws.” It is illegal to possess a firearm anywhere in D.C. other than the home.

    Mr. Kim’s attorney, Richard Gardiner, said his client was lawfully transporting the firearms, and that would have been his defense if the matter went to trial. “The mistake he made was agreeing to a search of his vehicle,” the attorney explained in an interview. “If the police ask for consent to search, the answer is ‘no.’ If they ask, ‘why not?’ The answer is, ‘no.’”

    Jail Time

    After loading the gun cases into the squad car to be used as evidence, the police took Mr. Kim to police headquarters. He was booked on four felony counts of carrying outside the home. The maximum penalty for all these charges would be a $20,000 fine and 20 years imprisonment.

    The veteran spent a “few hours in the drunk tank,” then was moved to the central jail. It was cold on the steel slab, so he asked the police guard for a blanket. “He was surly with me and sarcastic. He said, ‘Oh you want blankets? Well they’re back ordered,’” Mr. Kim recalled. “I remember thinking, we treated detainees in Afghanistan better than this.” He didn’t get much sleep that night.

    In the morning, the national guardsman was given a public defender and taken to arraignment. He called his squad leader at Walter Reed to pick him up and get his car.

    Once back at the army base, he quickly resolved the driver’s license problem. He then went to the JAG office for legal advice. “I knew if I got one felony, my military career would be over,” Mr. Kim told me. Since the case was in civil court, the military officer couldn’t help him with the charges.

    Mr. Kim was more concerned about his career. “I asked him for his opinion on how this would affect my getting subsequent security clearance,” he recalled. “The JAG eased his concerns: ‘You got arrested for carrying guns. That’s what you get paid for.’”

    So Mr. Kim went online to find a firearms’ attorney in the area. He asked for recommendations on the gun forum and was quickly referred to Mr. Gardiner. “The posters said, ‘Don’t accept anyone else,” Mr. Kim recalled. “I didn’t know he was part of the Heller case.” The lawyer represents Dick Heller in his second lawsuit against the District for its unconstitutional firearms laws.

    The Courts

    Over the next two months, Mr. Kim had to return to Washington for hearings and negotiations with the representative for the U.S. attorney. The feds knocked the original felony charges down to four misdemeanors of possession of unregistered firearms.

    He felt the prosecutor was sympathetic. “Pretty much everyone seemed in agreement on the fact that this had been some crazy misunderstanding. And, unfortunately, we had to through this whole goat rodeo now,” said Mr. Kim.

    Mr. Gardiner finally made a deal with the U.S. attorney in which Mr. Kim would plead guilty to one misdemeanor charge of one unregistered gun. If he avoided violating the law for nine months, all the charges would be dismissed.

    “They offered this great deal with no trial and a virtual guarantee the charges would be dismissed for two reasons,” explained the firearms attorney. “They knew they had slight problem with the transport issue. And they knew he was a wounded vet. They just decided this wouldn't be the best kind of case to get to trial.” Mr. Kim accepted the deal on Aug. 23, 2010.

    In May 2011, the charge was dismissed. His record, however is not expunged. It still shows he was arrested on four firearms charges, which were later dismissed.

    D.C Refuses to Return His Guns

    Three weeks after the charges were dropped, the U.S. attorney’s office sent a form to the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) property clerk certifying that Mr. Kim’s guns were no longer needed for evidence. Still, MPD would not release the guns.

    After waiting six months, Mr. Gardiner wrote to the District’s property clerk, Derek Gray, in Dec. 2011 to ask for Mr. Kim’s property to be returned. Neither Mr. Gray nor anyone from MPD has responded to the request.

    “This is legalized theft,” Mr. Gardiner said. “The charges were dropped, and they don't give you your property back? The Constitution requires that if the government takes your property, it has to do something to keep it. They can’t sit around twiddling their thumbs.”

    On Friday, I asked MPD why it had not returned Mr. Kim’s guns to him after the charges were dismissed, and the U.S. attorney released the property in June 2011.

    On Monday, MPD spokesman Gwendolyn Crump said the department “notified the respondent’s attorney last week of his right to a hearing concerning the return of weapons.” Mr. Gardiner said that he did not receive a letter. The spokesman did not respond to my inquiry about the date the letter was sent.

    Ms. Crump also said that the department sent Mr. Kim a letter in March, but it was returned undeliverable from his legal address, which the spokesman was unable to provide at press time. The Army lieutenant said that he moved within South Carolina in Sept. 2011, but has the mail forwarded to his new address. The normal process is to notify the attorney on record, however, and MPD never responded to Mr. Gardiner’s letter from December.

    Looking back on this whole experience, Mr. Kim now says that, “It was a pain driving back and forth up to D.C. and having to pay a lawyer, but the biggest loss is I’m out ten grand worth of guns.” He’s now in South Carolina preparing for his third overseas assignment to Kosovo.

    A valiant soldier who proudly serves our country is being treated like a criminal by the District. The nation owes him gratitude, not harassment for safely transporting guns through the nation’s capital. The lieutenant’s firearms should be returned to him by overnight express -- with a note of apology.
  2. elmerfudge

    elmerfudge New Member

    Power tripping S.O.B's

  3. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

    Somebody needs to stand up and take these communists to court.
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

    Wait now, an AR + a nice 1911 + a Beretta 92FS + a 1911 frame & some parts = $10,000 :confused:

    This is the part of the law that really sucks; you are innocent yet powerless to recover your property. When my cousin was attacked at his home, the investigating sheriff's department refused to release the contents of his gun safe (a little cash & mostly hunting rifles) until an attorney was retained to call their bluff. Since my cousin had a severe head injury, nobody is really sure if he got everything back.
  5. bkt

    bkt New Member

    Right. When one or more armed thugs take your property and won't give it back, it's called "theft" and these people are regarded as criminals.

    Unless, of course, those thugs have badges. Then it's called "law enforcement" and you become the bad guy.

    Funny how that works....
  6. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

    Wait...Wait.......Wait.......I thought some people on this forum said that couldn't happen. That the police would stand up for the constitution. That we should put on/or take off our tin foil hats.
  7. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

    He was in D.C., that place is a nightmare!
  8. downsouth

    downsouth New Member

  9. orangello

    orangello New Member

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  10. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

    I wonder what would happen if:

    He filed a stolen property report (or whatever),
    especially since he knows and can name who the thieves are,
    and cc:ed the report with a cover letter to his representative(s) and the paper,
    which I would think would then be asking his representative(s) for a statement about the situation this serving soldier is having,
    and who I'm guessing the DCPD would be hearing from soon,
    which would likely want to be able to respond to both the representative & the paper that his firearms have already been returned,
    and not returning them was all just a big mistake.

    I wonder if suing for damages would be pushing it.
  11. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member


    That's even worse. The capitol of our country where every one of those dirt bag politicians took an oath to protect our constitution.
  12. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

    This is a case study in why our country is circling the drain!

    "Central government's preeminent failure exists in its inability to distinguish between one’s behavior as innocent or malicious." - [​IMG]
  13. kycol

    kycol New Member

    Well we all know dc is crook headquarters, probably more dishonest people per square foot than any place on the planet.
  14. coastie

    coastie Member

    Some years ago, a friend decided to see what his new Pontiac Trans Am could do on the straight Lake Pontchartrain bridge. A TOLL bridge.
    At the South toll booth, the attendant gave his stamped ticket back and made the comment that he now "owned the speed record for the bridge."
    And a Louisiana Highway Patrolman and a New Orleans Patrolman, just there, took him into custody.
    A night in Jail. And finding what lot his car was impounded the next day.
    And paying to get it out. Gas tank near empty. Extra miles on the car.
    And his car still had the speed record of that bridge, but he had not been driving it.
    Wonder if the D.C. police have been playing with the evidence locker?
    Or if pawn shops outside the district have new inventory?!
    Good Luck!

    WNGMSTR Troll Scout

    Wow, bkt and canebrake. Back when the forum was real........:cool:
  16. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

    Hate to bash a fellow vet but what was that old Forest Gump saying?

    Stupid is a Stupid does?

    Medical appointment or not, how could any breathing gun owner be foolish enough to enter DC with these? Be foolish enough to consent to a search? Be foolish enough to cop a plea?

    Sorry too say it but this guys case as stupid written all over it.