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This thread is for the people on this forum that may not have hardly any money to spare for buying a pistol. A growing number of people these days cannot save enough money to purchase a nice, main-stream weapon like the Glock, Ruger, Kimber, Beretta, Smith and Wesson, etc., you will see on the market.

I am in no way saying these pistols are anywhere near top of the line, but I am just providing a reference for someone to use to try and research cheaper firearms if they are in a bad financial situation. Pretty much all of these firearms you will see are under 200 dollars.

In the world of defense, it's better to have something than nothing.

Please no flaming, and keep all posts related to the topic and informative/helpful to people who may need help with purchasing a cheap firearm.


Cobra Industries .380 caliber ($125.00 - $150.00)


Jimenez .380 Caliber ($100.00 - $130.00)


Jennings/Bryco .380 Caliber ($100.00-$150.00)


Hi-Point .380 Caliber ($90.00-$120.00)



Keep in mind that prices will vary depending on your specific area. I just used the caliber .380 as a basic reference. Most of these pistols may be purchased in different calibers ranging from .22 Long Rifle up to 9mm Luger.

Remember, the quality of these pistols vary. These pistols are not meant to be shot excessively. They are meant for very basic personal defense against harm.
 

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Remember, the quality of these pistols vary. These pistols are not meant to be shot excessively. They are meant for very basic personal defense against harm.
Hmm I have no idea how accurate this statement is but I hope it isn't very accurate .

While I have no idea about these guns because I have never fired much less owned one and I imagine that they would see very limited use they should be built to a quality standard that allows at the least thousands of rounds without any kind of significant failure of the design .

To knowingly build a product thats inferior in it's basic design to the point the physical structure may fail is not only irresponsible but should be criminal .

While it is very doubtful that many people try to become proficient in using a firearm with one of these it should be strong enough to survive the rigors of it should the owner endeavor to do so .

As a personal choice I would rather if on a very tight budget and needed a gun choose a used and perhaps lesser powered yet reliable weapon as a 38 ,32 or 22 caliber revolver from a reasonably reputable maker like Harrington & Richardson , Rossi or even Llama and Astra .
 

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What I mean by shot excessively, is that some of these pistols will not hold up to thousands and thousands of rounds. To me, that sucks, but that's the reality of the matter.

I've heard of some issues with Jennings pistols that after a few thousand rounds there's a possibility of stress cracks forming on the slide (very bad thing). Basically, the pistol will do it's job, but not repeatedly over time and time again.

Here's some other pistols (thanks for mentioning them, Big001):

Astra 9mm Pistol


Llama .45 Caliber Pistol


Rossi Revolver
 

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My concern would be that the firearm would not hold up long enough for the owner to become proficient with it before it failed to function. A firearm that may not function beyond a few thousand rounds certainly should not be considered for personal protection. If you can't depend on bang when you pull the trigger, carry a ball bat.

Not a flame, rather common sense.
 

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I urge anyone looking to purchase a lower priced firearm (in fact, any firearm) to do a good amount of research into the specifics of the firearm. The internet is a great tool to use, and has tons of information. Remember to refrain form getting reviews from the factory of the firearm you are interested in, because they will always be biased. Third party reviews are usually the most honest, because they usually have no vested interest in the product (financial or otherwise).

Here's one article I found on the Hi-Point pistols from Shooting Times. I will say that Hi-Point is probably your best shot at getting something of quality without having to pay a big of money for it.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/hipoint_100605/index.html
 

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FWIW, there are some very good USED weapons on the market for a very good price. A 4 inch S&W Mdl 10 in 38 Special IS small enough to be concealed (did it every day for several years) and while it is NOT a .500 Magnum Grunchenticker, does have enough stopping power to be useful- and they are reliable. There have been bunches of PD trade-ins that have been carried a lot, shot little, and generally go for less than $200.

And no- no flame. H&R and Iver Johnson built up a sizeable industry of making firearms for the working stiff. Not fancy, but worked- and they could be afforded.
 

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My advice would be to buy a used revolver in .38 or 22Mag. You can find used S&W or Rugers for around $200-300. Its imparative that you buy a quality firearm if you are going to defend your life with it. Sometimes you may have to pinch pennys and save money that hard way, but its worth it.
 

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My only real experience with a cheapo pistol is a High Point 9mm. My take on it is this, it does what I expected it to do. I've put probably 300 rounds through it so far over about 2 months. It is a lot more accurate than I ever expected at the range that I would be using it at (10 yards or so). I keep it near where I usually sit in my den as an "Oh s&**, a bad guy is coming in the door!" gun. I'm not worried about it getting stolen, so I don't lock it up when I'm not home. I've found so far that it has no problems whatsoever for the first 3 or 4 mags when it is clean when I shoot it. My wife limp-wrists it and can't make it through a couple shots without a jam. I would hate to know it was all I had in an extended gun fight, but all I need it for is to at least repel the bad guy until I can get something else.
 

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I had I Hi-Point. Ex Carried it on her way to work through not so nice neighborhoods. I would go bang every time. It was UGLY, but it fed cheapo ammo for practice and some high end stuff for defense, just fine. It was big and scary enough that on the couple of occasions she showed it to a bad guy, he left. Therefore, it did it's job. As young couple with a family we had a hard time justifying a $2000 handgun to carry. Hunting gear work fine for home, but in the car, we needed something. We paid $100 new for a Compact 9, and she still keeps it in her vehicle, 15 or so years later. You can't get towing on your insurance policy per year, that cheap.
 

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In response to Big0O1, you bring up a few good ones with the H&R and Astra pistols. H&R has good quality standards, they're just not "whizzy".

Astra is also often overlooked. A lot of their newer pistols STRONGLY resemble Sig designs, and there's a reason. Astra patterned them, with minor differences, after Sig designs (kinda like Taurus did with Smith and Wesson early on, and their early semi autos looked and functioned so much like Beretta designs).

Seems guns made in Spain get a bad rep, but no one really has any first hand experience with enough bad ones to make that blanket assessment. Astra is a fairly old company. Star also produced very good handguns from Spain.
 

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Guns do not have to be poor quality to be affordable! This is my MAKRAOV in .380 caliber. You can buy one for less than $200.00 and it will never FTF or FTE. The one in the photo is 25 years old and has had 2000 rounds+ through it and it has never been a problem. EVER! They are basically military/police surplus. You can also get TOKAREV and CZ 82 pistols in the same price range. All of these are HIGH QUALITY weapons and very affordable! Right now J&G Gun Sales is selling CZ82 9x18 pistols for $179.95. These are Police trade-ins.

J & G: http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/cz-82-czech-9x18-makarov-military-pistol%2C-good-condition%2C-one-mag-c-r-/products_id/1435?osCsid=a36fe10f4eb9e69dbde050ce9be78829
 

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Here is the Czech CZ-82... 9x18, DOUBLE STACK magazine 13+1. You just can't go wrong for the price!
 

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I believe this thread would have been better served calling it "Affordable pistols" instead of CHEAP PISTOLS. As cheap has always been equated with poor quality. I have no doubt that Sarge intended to provide AFFORDABLE pistol alternatives for the budget minded person.
 

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with one of these guns 1000's of rounds being fired won't matter cause the ownersost likely don't have the funds to hit up the range everyonth or so.
 

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Interesting thread. I am going to check on some of the suggestions made here. One thing that bothers me with auto pistols is that they can jam. Inexpensive revolvers can have problems as well such as going out of timing.
 

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ok now we are talking my game. i own 3 hi points they are very very good guns i researched them for 3 months, then bought a 380 for $169.00. the gun is great never had a problem, so i bought a hi point 45 acp. not one problem, so i bought a hi point 995 9mm carbine , not one problem , they are imo. as good as the s&w sigma. they have a life time any owner warrty. i also have the phoenix 25 hp.its good, i have a heritage 22 mag, its good, but i think hi point is the best (cheap gun) out there, also people sometimes are gun snobs when it comes to low cost guns, they should buy the gun and shoot it and run there own test before talking trash about a gun, not what joe blow said his sisters friend had happen. p.s these guns are made in the usa.
 

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I recently found a S&W model 10-5, 4" pencil barrel in .38 Spec. with the perfect, original blue factory box and cleaning tools in a suburban pawn / gunshop for less than $300. I don't think the gun has ever been fired. No blue wear, no wear on any parts (no cylinder "turning ring"!), the case colors on the hammer and trigger are perfect. This gun was made about 1955-1957. I think it sat in a drawer for the last 50 years.:eek:

Old guns in new or almost new condition are available at reasonable / good prices if you look. Put it on lay-a-way if money is tight. Gunshops / Pawnshops understand tight money and will generally take a lay-a-way over a lost sale. There are some great old guns out there in popular calibers. The new, modern, slick, cool expensive toy is not required.;)

Learn the difference between need and want. I'm STILL trying to get that message through to my daughter! I'm still trying to get that message through to me, too!:D :cool:
 
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