Im buying my first handgun

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by 97cobra, Sep 1, 2011.

  1. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    I guys I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I'm turning 21 here in december and I'm looking for a good pistol. I'm in school to be a police officer and will be required to provide my own service gun. I've been thinking about a glock 20 or 29 in 10mm. I'd like to use the gun as a service gun and for hunting and home defense at least until I get some more cash and can get separate guns. What do y'all think?
     
  2. bungiex8e8

    bungiex8e8 New Member

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    if i were you i would consider a semi pistol i know you mentioned hunting and you cant use semi pistols hunting atleast in pa you cant. If i was buying a pistol for self defense and for on the job like you will be i would seriously consider buying a kimber 1911. The price tag is high but kimber is one of the top of the line when it comes to self defense and accuracy. I just sold a 9mm and saving up for a kimber right now. my buddy has 2 of them and first time i shot it i was cutting holes at 30 yards very impresed. I found out with that 9mm it was a markarov buying a cheap gun for pretection isnt worth it. you have to buy something knowing if you get into a situation u can trust the gun no matter what and that gun is a kimber. Glocks are nice to but i never owned one before. and good luck with school.

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  3. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

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    Will the department you work for allow the use of a 10mm? If so then by all means get the G20.

    But if they regulate you to .40 S&W or 9mm and you want a Glock. Then look to the G17/G19 or G22/G23.

    As for hunting. Pretty much any handgun is near worthless for hunting unless its a large bore revolver (.44Mag/.454Casull/.460Mag/.500Mag) or heavy caliber pistol (.460Rowland/.44mag/.50AE). The 10mm might be the absolute minimum of that range but I'd want something larger with a longer barrel myself (thinking 1911 longslide or Witness Hunter).
     
  4. Glore

    Glore New Member

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    My honest opinion would be to get a Glock 22. The .40 is a very nice round. I have a wife and two kids to get home to after each shift and I carry it with confidence.
     
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    ^^^ What he said there...Your department may limit your choices to an approved list according to their testing and armorer's training. Whatever you choose be sure to train with it until you are proficient to the point of using it instinctively...in your future line of work your life will literally depend on it.
     
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  6. therewolf

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    You may want to find out what's popular in your particular

    LE group.

    Many places insist on either a 9mm, or a .357 revolver using

    .38 special rounds. Some groups have moved on to the .40.

    A few allow you to carry what you're comfortable with.
     
  7. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    Believe me when I say I will have a 1911 style pistol when the funds are there. I've been thinking colt, Springfield, or Kimber but can't decide. What is preferred here?

    I'm shooting for the state police who will provide me with a gun. This is in the case that I have to get in local and they only say it must be larger than a 9mm.

    Te one thing I liked about the 10mm was that I can swap barrels and have 3 other calibers. Including the .40

    Just from shooting with my dad and buddies I feel that I am fairly proficient with a handgun. Its hard to say seeings that I use different ones depending on who I'm shooting with.

    They mostly all use .40 and .45 here. Almost all glocks too.
     
  8. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    That's the question which gets to the heart of the matter. Choosing a handgun is a very personal matter. I far prefer the feel of a SA XDm in my hand than a Glock. Glocks to me have the ergonomic qualities of a paving brick. But I would never say everyone needs to buy a Springfield and throw away their Glocks.

    You'll find that most on here will have their own preferences for particular handguns. But to be blunt, those who talk about "oh you have to buy this because it's the best" are blowing smoke out their gluteus maximus.

    Ok... perhaps that's not quite true of Cane and BHP's. I drool over that gun.

    There's a group of manufacturers that are appropriate for what you describe: Glock, SA, S&W, Sig, H&K, etc. Try them all and pick what feels best to you. They all make great guns.
     
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  9. utf59

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    If you're planning to become a police officer and are looking for a duty gun, I say don't make it a multipurpose gun. Your life, and possibly the lives of others, could depend on your ability with that gun and, IMHO, that gun should not be a compromise.

    How long until you anticipate becoming a police officer? And I don't know about your area, but around here, people go through one academy but may get hired in one of a number of city and county departments, or even college campuses.

    If it's going to be a while before you get hired, and if you think you'll have time to purchase another gun, look toward your current needs. If you want a practice gun, look at a .22. If you want a more full-size gun, get a 9mm. These are cheap to shoot.

    If you will graduate soon, look at the approved gun lists for the department(s) where you hope to be hired and get one that's on ALL the lists — that way you're covered wherever you go.

    I don't know how long hunting season runs in PA, but you will have lost at least some of this season if you can't get the gun until December. So if you want to hunt with a handgun, you might think about making this a separate purchase for next year. And if you were thinking about hunting with a handgun as a way of not buying a second gun, you might want to rethink it. You can get a decent rifle for less than most big-bore revolvers suitable for hunting.
     
  10. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    Thats a good point. I like the feel of glocks. But at the same time I've never shot a Springfield or Kimber before. I appreciate the advice.
     
  11. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    That's true. I never even thought about hunting season being over very shorty after I buy it. And then have to get my permit to carry it. I wouldn't be using it to actually hunt with but more as a secondary weapon that's better than a bolt action rifle as a self defense in the woods weapon. I've asked about glocks for the departments and they have all said a 10mm would be suitable and they would even provide me an allotted amount of ammo each year. (practice on my own is self provided of course.) an I'll be graduating by mid summer next year depending on performance.
     
  12. Rarity

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    The Glock 29 sounds good enough. The Glock 19, OR 23 sounds better.

    Do some more research before you purchase.

    The 10mm caliber doesn't seem like a good option for novice carry. Since you're asking for advice.

    Look into a 9mm, 40S&W, OR a 45ACP. 357 SIG isn't doing justice for retailers; or so the majority.

    If you think the 10mm caliber is your personal choice when you're at the range, sounds good to me.

    Zoey,
     
  13. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    I liked the 10mm because it was an interesting round and because I am able to buy that barrel and shoot 40s&w too.
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Interesting rounds typically mean expensive.
     
  15. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    They aren't that much more than .45acp. Double tap sells them for a few dollars more. And they have better prices on bulk.
     
  16. sweeper22

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    10mm has the potential to be an excellent choice or a terrible one, from one shooter to the next.

    Here's what you need to know (if you don't already):

    Positives: 10mm is a powerful cartridge that can approach 41mag performance in a reliable and (w/ Glocks) high capacity semi-auto platform. But to attain this performance you must either be a competent handloader or order from a handful of somewhat expensive online loaders (Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, etc). As far as hunting, around here the G20/29 is a very popular hunting BUG during bow season. Elsewhere it might be a viable hog option. But if you go hunting with a 10mm pistol as your primary weapon, you're probably doing it wrong.

    Negatives: It's expensive. That's not a huge deal when it comes to defense/hunting BUG rounds, as you'll probably shoot those rounds on a limited basis. But if you want to leave a few hundred rounds at the range on a regular basis, you're going to want a 40sw barrel for sure. The biggest issue with 10mm is that when you buy your basic range ammo (American Eagle for example), you will be paying inflated 10mm prices and the round you will receive will perform like a cheaper 40sw in every way (weight, speed, diameter, trajectory). This also applies to most of your staple JHP defense ammo from Win/Fed/Rem/etc...the vast majority of it has been loaded down to 40sw specs. But you still get the honor of paying for the spendier 10mm.

    10mm is a pretty cool round IMO, just be sure it's a practical choice for you and know your way around the ammunition options. There are a ton people out there paying dearly to feed their 10mms, and all that's coming out the barrel is a 40sw.
     
  17. 97cobra

    97cobra New Member

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    I didn't know anything about them being loaded down. But I have all the stuff to reload and my uncle reloads. He told me he'd teach me to reload and would do some of them for me until I for it down. But I definitely planned of getting the .40sw barrel as well.