Im amazed this cop didnt get shot

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Cory2, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. Cory2

    Cory2 New Member

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK5bMSyJCsg&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - ‪Cop Pulls Out Gun On Motorcyclist‬‏[/ame]

    The good stuff starts around 2:50, but you should watch the whole video to see if you can figure out why the cop would do this the way he did.

    Basicly, this is a helmet cam video from someone on a motorcycle, he is doing what sports bike riders always do, speeding, popping wheelies, the normal, whatever no one got hurt. So a person nearly runs him off of the road and then hops out with gun in hand... How would you have reacted?
     
  2. Jesse17

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    Meh. He had a state trooper pulling him over, right behind him. :rolleyes: And the officer with the gun pulled out didn't 'nearly run him off the road' he simply blocked him from taking off again.

    I do think the officer with the gun should have identified himself as police as soon as he came out of the vehicle, and before he started telling the guy to get off the bike, but that was pretty minor.

    As far as getting shot? the guy on the bike would have to have a pretty brassy set if he is going to draw down with gloves on at that point. The cop pretty much had the drop on him by the time there was a gun involved.

    I do think it was a little excessive for a mere 80 something MPH stop.
     

  3. Dillinger

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    Got to be honest, I have to side with Johnie Law on this one.

    The guy was speeding (documented several times); changing lanes without signaling (several times); wheelies (not a big deal to me unless you lose control and do $250K worth of damage - which is like hitting 4 SUVs these days); and he KNEW he was guilty by the look back on the off ramp.

    As far as "getting shot"?? :eek::confused:

    Given the criteria above, knowing you are guilty, having passed a cop, chosen an off ramp, looking back to see "if you were followed" and then a guy pulls up and announces he is a Stater with a standard issue Glock??

    If you were on a super bike, and I love me a good quality super bike, guilty as hell and wanted to pull a weapon against a guy who IDENTIFIED himself as a State Trooper, with weapon drawn but NOT pointed at you, within SIX SECONDS??

    Sorry brother, I am all for individual freedom, but I don't see any "police abuse" on this one.....

    JD
     
  4. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    As long as no one gets hurt it's OK to break the law. Not all sport bike riders pop wheelies and speed, that is a large group of people to clump together, because of a few idiots who think it is cool to ride like an idiot and make those that follow the rules of the road get looked at like they are a bunch of road racing fools.
    Where is the sound up until he gets out of the car? Why did he look back behind him in the end just before he was pulled along side and the other State Trooper was right behind him also. He pointed out the Trooper in the video. He wasn't nearly run off the road.:confused: Looked like he was coming to a stop.
     
  5. Cory2

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    I was more so talking about the dude in the unmarked car hoping out and pulling out his gun and shouting commands before anouncing he was a cop. If he had got out and yelled "im a cop!" first then it would have been all cool and dandy.. Im just saying that some dude hops out of a plain car in plain clothes and pulls his gun and starts yelling at me, the thought of pulling my pistol would be the very first across my mind. As opposed to a guy hopping out with badge in one hand identifying himself, then it would be understandable. Motorcycles (as with all vehicles) can be used as a lethal weapon.

    The kicker though is that apparently they tried to slap him with some kind of felony "illegal wiretapping" or something because of this video. Another judge dropped that charge though.

    Edit: The other judge didnt drop the charge, he overturned it...
     
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  6. deathkricket

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    So no flashing lights, also no uniform? If some random person were to pull up next to you jump out with a Glock and say state police are any of you going to bow before him? not very smart on the cop side and no need for a gun draw on the biker, John Wayne must be having a bad day, and it looks like he is off duty to me also.
     
  7. Shihan

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    Unmarked is just that, unmarked. Plain Clothes Cops. Ever heard of them?
    Did you see the grill or the upper portion of the windshields? I didn't see it in that video.
    I do know that there are a number of unmarked cars that are very hard to tell they even have lights until they are on.
     
  8. deathkricket

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    Sorry unmarked cars still have lights and strobes in the head and tail lights...thats how they pull you over.. have you ever seen one? and yes you can see the front of the car when he drives past... glasses Shihan..glasses

    is this a unmarked car?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cosWoHEYLP4&feature=related[/ame]

    Or is he in to much of a rush to put his lights on to make it a legal stop?
     
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  9. dog2000tj

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    The only thing wrong in this video I see is the State Trooper failing to identifying himself first. He does pull his weapon but he is not in uniform and not in a patrol vehicle so he could reasonably suspect some form of aggression against him. With that at no time does the Trooper exhibit any negligent or caress control of his sidearm and once the rider complies with his verbal orders he re-holsters it. But given the proximity of the marked Trooper right behind the biker I would say it's a minor flap (the biker should have been well enough aware that a marked troopers car was right behind him)

    Now to those that of you who have brass ballz and insist you would pull out your gun in this situation may I suggest you do so the next time you are breaking the law and get stopped. Please by all means do it and do us the favor of clouding the gene pool with your stupidity! ;)

    Good day :cool:
     
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  10. rjd3282

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    I'm more afraid of the idiots in the SUV's doing 80 than I am a guy on the bike. There should be no unmarked cars doing traffic stops. I'm sorry but the cops don't seem to know what they want. Unmarked cars here, guys in black masks there. Remember when you could tell what you were dealing with, like a cop in a uniform and a police car.

    Does that cop pull his gun on everybody doing 10 mph over the speed limit or does he just hate people on bikes. I'll bet if the the speeder had been some ditzy 19 year old female in a SUV doing 80 (which by the way is far more dangerous to other motorists) he wouldn't have pulled his weapon.
     
  11. Jesse17

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  12. Hawg

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    My guess is he's pulled over enough of the asswipe stunt riders that have hauled butt as soon as he stopped is why he had the gun pulled. The guy knew he was being pulled over by law enforcement so there was no real need to announce it.
     
  13. rjd3282

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    So you are saying that the trooper was prepared to administer the death penalty for speeding. If that's the case I would bet that all of us on this forum have committed the capitol crime of speeding and we should all be shot.
     
  14. Hawg

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    Not for speeding but for running.
     
  15. Mandy

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    I have always been taught that you pull a gun only if you intend to use it or if your life was in danger, the biker just stopped so no need to pull a gun, instead the cop should have pulled only his badge and ID.

    Even if the biker tries to run away that wouldn't be a reason to shoot him so in my book the cop is a trigger happy maniac that should be removed from the force and possibly brought on charges.
     
  16. dnthmn2004

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    There are valid points to both sides of the argument. I'm going to side with the the law on this one though. Police officers have to be perfect in an imperfect world which means some mistakes are going to be made. Who knows if the statie forgot his badge that day - being off duty and all? His blues weren't working/broken? I am going to agree, the first words out of his mouth should have been identifying himself as law enforcement. Other than that, this is not that big of a deal. What kind of moron video tapes himself breaking the law anyways? I racked up a $1500 ticket and suspended license, and that's being modest.

    The biker passed the marked statie at 1:07 and then he was right there, stopped and getting out of his cruiser when the biker turned his head for the second time - which means the statie was right on his *** for two minutes while the biker continued to pass other cars in excess of 80mph. Of course the off duty is going to get involved and help his brother catch someone attempting to evade police. Anyone with common sense could put two and two together, there is a cruiser with lights on, and a blacked out Impala right with him - it must be an officer as well. DUH!

    Going back to the OP, "amazed this cop didn't get shot" REALLY?? Who the hell is going to pull a firearm with a marked statie 20ft away?! Did you watch the whole video??


    No, that is not an unmarked car. That is what we call a "whacker". A wanna-be putting in some waggers and blues. Major repercussions for doing that here. Unmarked cars have more lights than that and the thing that really tipped me off is the douche removed his plates prior to the video because he didn't want to get busted.

    I saw the front of the car, when the biker turned to see who was busting him. Also, I love how the audio cuts in when it benefits the biker the most. He could have deleted himself saying, "crap, I'm getting pulled over" "sh!t, I'm busted" etc, etc.

    Also, personal off duty vehicles don't always have blues in them. But if this guy is going to be an officer 24/7, he should have had them put in prior.
     
  17. cpttango30

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    Lets get one thing straight that many of you FAIL to see. This is not a simple stop for 80 mph. He was at one point exceeding 125mph. Sorry even on a bike that is a darn danger to everyone on the dagum road. He should be locked up his bike crushed or sold at auction and his lic revoked for the rest of his life. He is an idiot and really the cop should have pulled out a 1911 and pistol whipped his *** till he cried for his momma.

    When the cop pulled up he started to back away like he was going to run.

    I refuse to Monday morning qb this video. The cop was in the right and the Slouchy DOUCHE BAG was in the WRONG.
     
  18. Cory2

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    Monday morning qb? idk what that is :confused:. I got the impression he was backing away because someone pulled a gun on him, I would have done the same thing at the very least. He stopped once the cop identified himself.
     
  19. cpttango30

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    Monday morning Quarterbacking the video.

    We weren't there. Maybe this guy had been pulled over and tried to run. Maybe this guy got pulled over before this and tried to fight with the police office. We don't know the riders history. He is by his own video a flaming DOUCHE BAG. But hey what ever.

    So maybe just maybe you should get more facts before bashing a police officer. You never know that officer you bash might be the one that saves your life or the life of a loved one someday.

    I see it as he stopped once the officer grabbed the bike. I see the gun as a way to disable the bike by shooting the front tire. Ever tried to ride a bike with a flat front tire?

    So Maybe just maybe the officer on the scene knows more than you do.
     
  20. knfxda

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    QFT.

    An officer's gun is not his badge or ID. It should not be acceptable for an officer to present his weapon as a means of identification.

    Why was the gun drawn? What offense warranted a gun to be drawn? Was he going to shoot the guy if he took off? Prior to the gun being drawn, what threat to the officer's life or safety did the guy represent?