Illinois - Crook County - Chicago

Discussion in 'Illinois Gun Forum' started by 2ndAmendmentFreedom, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

    2ndAmendmentFreedom New Member

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    Yep as the title says I'm unfortunate live in Chicago, I have all the required permits to own a firearm and I shoot at Illinois Gun Works pretty much on a weekly basis. I only shoot a Colt .45 for now.
     
  2. Sniper03

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    Yes Sir!

    You have my sympathy living in the socialist state of Chicago! The only way anyone should have to live there is if that is the place their company has assigned them. Otherwise there is a whole nation and other jobs! Oh excuse me excluding California, New Jersey and a couple of others. Unfortunately the corruption and socialist views of Chicago has spewed over into our Federal Government at the present time! Hopefully something will change soon. I am sorry but I do not have much hope for Chicago even with the security guard making some great changes as to personal protection and pistols in the home.
    Good to hear from you and looking forward to seeing future threads and posts from you.
    God Bless America and our Second Amendment!:)

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  3. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

    2ndAmendmentFreedom New Member

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    Thank you Sniper03, always a part of my threads :)
    I'm hoping to move West this year, looking at the Utah region.
     
  4. pureredneck

    pureredneck New Member

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    Heck no need to move out of state. Just move down state. We don't live by them northern rules.
     
  5. mag318

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    That's true, once you get out of the city Illinois is a different world, at least for now.
     
  6. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    I'm looking at more than just gun laws, if I move out of Chicago I'm moving to a state that doesn't rank top of the debt list and has lower taxes. Also if I move, I move to distance myself from the ticking bomb as far as possible, I'm not very optimistic for Illinois even though I know there are still a few good folks out there.
     
  7. mag318

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    You make some valid points, Illinois is in bad shape in many ways. Picking a state to move to is a very major decision. When I moved out of Chicago 10 years ago I considered Texas and Nevada, but since I still have so many friends here and enjoy the change of seasons I decided to stay. Now I sometimes think moving out of state would have been a wise move. In any case when you leave Chicago, wherever you decide you'll be happy.
     
  8. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    I grew up in Chicago so it's a love/hate relationship. In terms of big cities, it's a great city to live in and work in, but things are going to get tough; I see a bunch of little stores closing, a lot of people are going to face hardship and the answer will be increased socialism draining money from people still earning their living. My family owns our house, paid for, no debt and we're paying $10k in property taxes per year which is like paying a pricy rent on something we own. Plus the anti-2ND amendment stance isn't very promising for law abiding citizens.
     
  9. mag318

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    Being an old guy I was lucky to grow up in Chicago as it was still a great place in the 50/60s. It was a great place to work and make money, and was once a great city of neighborhoods. It's truly sad to see what is has become. And don't get me started on property taxes since the workers have to support the slackers. I was lucky to get out and sell my condo on LSD before the housing market crashed. The only thing I miss are the restaurants and still venture back a few times a year to get a decent pizza. Illinois is now ranked the worst state in the Union in several catogories and yet our residents keep electing Democrats, unbelievable.
     
  10. mkett39

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    The problem is they want to make rules for the rest of the state. As in the mayors idea to impose registering guns and charging $65 per handgun for five years then $25 each for renewals. Guarantee my house will be for sale if that crap makes it.

    they want to generate funds by imposing these fees on law abiding citizens when they could pass CCW and accomplish a windfall of money through permits.

    By the way only two counties in the whole state voted for our goobernor, Just happened to be the two that counted the most.
    Then they went and e;elected Obama's right hand crook Emanuel for mayor of crapcago.
     
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  11. winds-of-change

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    I live in DeKalb County and though I agree once out of the City limits the laws are a little more tolerable that doesn't negate the fact the Chicago passes some of the laws that affect the whole state. :mad:
     
  12. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    And I don't see it getting any better. The more Chicago is going to suffer socially (which is the logical outcome of businesses closing, people depending on government aid etc.), the more you'll see anti 2nd Amendment laws. Too many people are not ready for a 2nd Amendment right here and it's fueling the popularity of gun control. In some areas of the city, if they were granted their constitutional right they'd think they received a license to kill and you'd have increased gang activity. So you'd have to put a law to prevent certain areas/people from accessing firearms which would be considered racist. So instead they make gun ownership extremely inconvenient and expensive to prevent as many people as possible from owning a gun.
    Without a society with strong morals, a real sense of responsibility and duty, the 2nd Amendment will always be limited. Cities like Chicago will never see CCW because it's a city with too many class differences (upper, middle, lower) and therefore too much "friction". The only way is to live in smaller communities to avoid socialism and one size fits all gun policies.
     
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  13. mag318

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    I was amazed when Quinn won by 2 counties, Brady would have been a huge improvement. I don't believe the latest statewide gun registration scheme will ever fly, but if it did ever pass this state would loose a lot of people. Hopefully sanity will prevail with downstate legislators who've managed to beat back yearly attempts at various AWB proposals. So Illinois is still better than a few states in that regard. The neighboring states love Illinois politicians since they keep chasing businesses out, as well as citizens. Now if you guys decide to leave the state where would you move? Texas is number one on my list.
     
  14. lilguy

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    I live a 1/4 mile NW of the gulag county border. Rahmbos registration plan has me boiling.
    When I was a kid in the 50/60's my pop had his business in the Austin area of Chicago. As a kid I could walk any where without worry.Not any more, I would not want to get caught alone there now even if the neighborhood was still standing. I got a CCW permit
    from Florida and as soon as I leave Illinois I carry. Went to Knob Creek shoot last fall, Kentucky is a different planet from Illinois. Hotel/Motel and Restaurant signs welcoming
    machine gun shooters and a good % of the folks were packing heat. In Illinois we can only dream.
     
  15. Edward14

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    Illinois Fire-Arms Owners under Attack...

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    -To All Illinois Fire-Arms Owners-
    If this House Bill passes and Emanuel gets his way, any Illinois resident that owns handguns and doesn't comply, they will become a Class 2 Felon. Illinois already makes all residents get a FOID card before they can even buy any Fire-Arms(Only State that does)also Illinois Does Not permit any resident to Carry & Conseal(Only State that doesn't)Illinois is a Anti-Gun Blue State to it's Core....Read it for yourself...http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2012/02/illinois-statewide-handgun-registry-and-ammunition-tax-bills-filed-in-the-house.aspx
     
  16. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    Actually that is a very common misconception, Texas is far from being the most pro-gun state and they have some tough laws too. I'm looking at Utah, I work in Information Technology and Salt Lake City is great for that. I'd personally consider South Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado (away from Denver) and a few others. I wouldn't want to go all the way East or West, a bit left of the Midwest is where it's at.
     
  17. texaswoodworker

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    Yeah, that is a misconception, we are not the most pro gun state (but we are way up there), that would be Arizona, Utah, and possibly Alaska.
    For the most part, I don't notice any laws that infringe on my 2a rights (open carry would be nice though. That way you don't have to worry if you gun is showing). For the most part, I can walk into a gun shop, and walk out with any gun I want (nfa takes a little more work though).
    There is NO waiting period, no licences required to buy a gun, and no gun registration. As far as I know, there is no ban on any gun. If you want an ak-47 with a drum mag, go for it. We also have Castle Doctrine that covers the home, and the land around it. :D
    I would like to see them allow Constitutional carry, open carry, and ban many of the no gun zones though.
     
  18. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    Of course compared to Illinois, Texas is a different country lol!
     
  19. Magnum27

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    I totally disagree with you. The areas of the city that you mention as having issues have guns everywhere right now. Having LEGAL citizens have guns isn't going to make it worse - it will make it better. Just read the stats the John Lott has put together.

    The friction of classes won't lead to shoot outs with CCW, it will lead to people being better people.
     
  20. Edward14

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    Ranges


    Unfortunately I do to and I also go to the range on a weekly basis have you ever gone to Midwest Sporting Goods in Lyons ?