IL FOID card question

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by bikerlbf406, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    I know on the FOID card application it asks "In the past 5 years, have you been a patient in any medical facility or part of any medical facility used primarily for the care or treatment of persons for mental illness?". If you answer yes it asks for full details. I was in the local hospital mental health unit 4 years ago for a brief 4 day visit due to depression. I admitted myself in there and was not forced to go there. However do to state law my FOID card was taken from me. I'm now wanting my FOID card back for I can legally own and shoot a gun at the range, which to me is a way to relieve stress. I recently sent in my application for the FOID card, my $10 check and a letter giving full details of why I was admitted, when, for how long and my treatment while in there and the treatment I received afterwards. I'm hoping that they will issue me a FOID even though its only been 4 years and I had to answer yes to their question in order to be truthful. They cashed my check 10 days ago and I have yet to receive anything from them. I know the law says 30 days and that some people report having to wait up to 2 months or more to receive it. My question is does me answering yes to their question automatically mean that I will be denied and that I wasted my effort and $10......or do they base it upon each individual case meaning I do have a chance of getting one? I'm hopeful they will issue me one, since I've yet to get a denial letter from them, and they did cash my check, which tells me they're probably doing a back ground check on me, which I know I'll pass with no problems. I'm just if anyone else have answered yes to any of their questions and still got a FOID card or if answering yes automatically disqualify you from getting one, even though they do ask for full details. Next question is, if they do deny me a FOID, is there any way to appeal their decision and try to get it over turned?
     
  2. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I think just wait and see. I don't beleive answering "yes" to that question automatically denies you a FOID card, but I think it will merit a more intense background search. Being honest is a great plus for you. I think if you were involuntarily admitted amongst a scuffle with the police, etc. might disqualify you. But your circumstances are different. I wouldn't fret. I'll bet you get that FOID card. Please, keep us informed. I'm pretty confident you'll get that card.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Yep- what she said right up there ^^^.
     
  4. Boyerracing343

    Boyerracing343 New Member Supporter

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    I agree with Winds-of-change. You went about this correctly (from what i read), You proposed your information in the correct manner, All you can do is wait. I remember years ago when I applied for my FOID card to took almost 12 weeks to receive it. I just recently helped my girlfriend and her older sister both apply for FOID's as well at a local gun show because it was convenient. The man told me to expect a fairly long wait (up to 16 weeks) because turn around has been slow. All you can do is wait, but I doubt they would have cashed your check if you would have been denied.

    Sorry I am unable to give you any more information that hasn't already been stated by Winds, but I do wish you good luck.


    BTW: Welcome to FTF! Check out the introductions section and give us a brief description of yourself. Hope you enjoy the forums.
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Okay, you give the state $10 to get a card that certifies you to own a firearm.

    Would Illinois make more money if they carded those who cannot own a firearm?

    I am glad I do not reside in the asylum of Ill.
     
  6. Shade

    Shade New Member

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    The fact they cashed you check is a good sign, but not a done deal. You
    might have to get a note from your doctor that you are not a danger to
    yourself or anyone else. The fact you admitted yourself, is a huge help.

    Yes, the State of Illinois is very strange, it is a bipolar state. Chicagoans vs.
    the evil "downstaters".
     
  7. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    Thanks for all the replies, I feel more confident now that I will get it, I'll just have to patiently wait for it. I'm really hoping the state keeps to their 30 day law, even though they have a tendency to take a lot longer, as there is a gun show about 15 minutes from my house coming up December 3rd and 4th and I'd really like to possibly pick me up a firearm there. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I have it by then. I'll keep everyone updated though once I get it or hear anything about it.
     
  8. jonbouy

    jonbouy New Member

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    It is very good you answered correctly, if you hadn't and they found out it would be bad news. At this point wait and see, but don't be surprised if it does not work out. The ISRA (their legal team) had to go to court for a lady that was pregnant and put in the mental ward temporarily because the maturnity/birthing ward was full. (they found out, she did not claim it, probably didn't think it made any difference)
    They denied her FOID until legal action was taken, so there is very little common sense, let alone sense, involved.
    I do not know how it ended up.
    Good luck and be sure to keep us informed how it develops.
     
  9. beaniemac

    beaniemac New Member

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    if it had been that long , I would have answered "no" on those questions instead. and hoped they wouldn't find out.....
     
  10. billt

    billt New Member

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    I was born and raised in and around Chicago, Illinois. I lived (wasted) 38 years of my life there before I got smart, and got out of that socialistic $h!t hole. You have to properly align yourself as to how these people think in order to answer your question.

    The whole "reason" of the F.O.I.D. System is to have an angle to DENY you your Second Amendment rights. It allows the state, (which has been run by socialists for decades), to screen potential gun buyers and owners in an attempt to deny them access to guns. In that regard my guess is you won't get this straightened out, unless you are willing to spend a great deal of money, and kick up a great deal of legal dust in the process.

    They got you by the nuts because the words "guns", and "mental facility" don't go together well. Most people believe anyone who needs such help can never be trusted the way a "normal" person can. And for some like John Hinckley, and other mentally disturbed people who are prone to violence, that may in fact be true. The problem is you are being lumped in with people like him. Unfairly of course, but it makes your problem all the more difficult to solve. Especially from the eyes of socialistic democrats who don't want you to own a firearm in the first place.
     
  11. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    If they cashed your check Im 99% certain you will get your card , dont get in a hurry though ,it took just shy of 60 days to get mine renewed last yr and 3 weeks for my wife and she was a new card holder I sent mine in a week before she did . if you get it in 30 days I would say thats pretty quick .
    keep us updated and when you get it have fun !!!!
     
  12. beaniemac

    beaniemac New Member

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    I got mines in july and applied in may originally. my wife sent hers out about a month ago, and has yet to get it back still.
     
  13. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    Well the state cashed my check on October 6th and finally today November 25th, I received a letter from them stating my FOID card application has been denied based on me being admitted in a mental health facility in the past 5 years. They did however include the paperwork needed for me to appeal the decision and a list of everything they need from me, one being a letter from my ssychiatr, which I should have no problem getting as he said he has no problem supporting me in trying to get the FOID card. Also have to get 2 notarized letters from people that know me to give their opinion, which shouldn't be a problem. So I'm still hopeful of getting it, its going to be a long drawn out process, more then what I was hoping for, but I'm not giving up.
     
  14. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Sorry they didn't give it to you. Hopefully the letters will help them change their minds.

    Good luck.
     
  15. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I bet if you follow those instructions to appeal, you will get the FOID card. Good luck. Keep us informed of any progress.
     
  16. bikerlbf406

    bikerlbf406 New Member

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    Well despite all the letters including from my physciatrist supporting me, I never did even hear back from the state. Last month was my 5th year of being out of the hospital, and I did reapply. Took about 45 days, however I finally got approved. I've had my guns for over a year now (my dad bought them in his name for me). However I am legal now finally.
     
  17. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Biker! Good to hear from you- and glad that things were finally resolved (Water wears away rock- be persistent!)

    Don't be such a stranger- and sorry you have had bone-headed bureaucrats to deal with for over a year.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2012
  18. Eturnsdale

    Eturnsdale New Member

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    It's good that you finally got it, but I hate that you had to jump through hoops to get it.
     
  19. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    @ beaniemac oh they would have found out.

    @ OP: The truth is that 30day wait is probably provided there are no issues with the applicant and the application. given that there were "yeses" on your app, it's probably flagged and WILL take longer.

    Just a few thoughts, I am by no means 100% knowledgeable on the subject but, honestly, even if you voluntarily admitted your self for psych eval/issue, whatever they may be, you may want to seek out another way to "relieve stress" as you say it, because there is a good chance you may be denied. Also, you may want to rescind your application and reapply in 1 year (the app says "in the past 5 years" with regard to the hospital stay). doesn't it also ask if in the last 5 years have you been denied for a FOID? Next year when the 5 yrs expires for the "hospital stay" you may have a denial for this application that you will have to disclose to them.

    Again, this is just me thinking with me fingers because you can't hear me thinking out loud.
     
  20. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    OOOPS< well I guess I should have read the WHOLE thread before posting...