IDPA Shooters...what do you use?

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by BenLuby, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. BenLuby

    BenLuby New Member

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    So...I realize this is probably equivalent to asking the best beer, but what caliber/type firearm do you use for your IDPA competitions? The reason I specifically ask that, instead of competition guns, is because IDPA pretty much uses stock, and most other competitions use customs.
    I find it an interesting sport.
     
  2. willfully armed

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    I started in SSP with gen 2 G17, went to a gen 3 G20, now its G34.
    I've got another G34 that I've bastardized for ESP.

    bladetech pistol and mag holsters.
     

  3. ArizonaLawman

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    For IDPA...I use my everyday carry Glock 22 RTF. My feeling is that since IDPA is for carry guns and gear...that's what I use.

    I carry in a leather pancake holster with matching dual magazine pouch made for me by another retired cop.

    I use a simple Casual Male canvas vest, or fleece jacket (in winter) for my cover garment.

    I use what I would normally carry/wear daily for IDPA matches.

    I will NOT use my competition sweetened Glock 17 3rd Gen with the Ghost Rocket trigger and high speed low drag holster and million mags. There are a few "gamers" sneaking in who have tricked their IDPA guns out to the max allowed by the rules and loopholes, and I won't buy into that. That mentality is what ruined IPSC years ago IMO.
     
  4. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Wow.

    IDPA IS A GAME. Just as IPSC is a game. Different classes for different guns. You wouldn't run your g22 against Matt Hopkins' open CZ gun because class limitations wouldn't allow for it.

    My SSP gun is stock Glock. My ESP gun is WAY NOT stock. Magwell, 2# trigger with no take up and a 1911 reset. Completely resprung, steel guide rod, sevigny comp fiber sight.


    But this is exactly why classes exist.
     
  5. BenLuby

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    Do you acknowledge that when you sign up and compete in the custom class?
     
  6. ArizonaLawman

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    I know...I agree...I could have posted my reply better. Yes, classes DO exist for a reason, and I should have clarified that MY own choice in IDPA is strictly "shoot what I carry" as I consider IDPA the best competition around for self defense based shooting, that's why I really dig on our BUG only matches.

    I shot IPSC when hi-tech was a beavertail...then "all the crap you can hang on your gun" came into vogue and I stopped for a LONG time. Similarly...I shoot USPSA (steel shooting) with my slick as hell Glock 17 with Aro Tek sights, Ghost Rocket, Mag Well, Wolff Springs, etc..etc..etc...BUT...I also shoot USPSA with a stock revolver in the summer, and in PRODUCTION CLASS once a month with my carry gun.

    I am not whizzing on anyone's choice, just stating my own preference for ME and why I shoot IDPA.

    Also, the guys who say that "competition will ruin your tactical shooting" etc...etc...are probably pretty crappy at tactical shooting if competitioon will ruin their tactical shooting. Shooting ANY discipline that promotes safety, trigger control, marksmanship, shooting and moving, can't be a bad thing.

    Last month at Tuesday Night Steel I was talking with Leatham about that very thing.

    When it boils right down to it...have fun and shoot.
     
  7. BenLuby

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    You're talking about the Leatham that shoots for Springfield Arms? Watched his videos the other day. Man is dead on target.
    I'm still finding info on IDPA, and getting set up for it when I get a new pistol. Steel sounds fun as well, but, similarly, it would be production only.
     
  8. ArizonaLawman

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    Yeah Rob Leatham. His home range is where I shoot on Tuesday nights. Rio Salado. I have shot with/against Rob for 20+ years. Of course, I have never BEAT Rob! I came close to him on ONE stage some years ago when I was having one of those "perfect nights" for me and he was recovering from double knee surgery...LOL. I was within 3 seconds of his time. I call it the best night I had, versus one of the worst he ever had...LOL.

    He shoots LIMITED out there. XDm out of Safariland gear.

    Rob is THE BEST.
     
  9. BenLuby

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    His videos, although they are 'sales pitches' are a hell of a lot less irritating than some of the others, so I wound up watching like ten of them last night on the XD(M).
    Bad part is, he makes it look so easy.
    And even coming close to beating him equates to being on hell of a good shot as far as I am concerned.
     
  10. BenLuby

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    Arizona, what is a 'bug only shoot'?
     
  11. willfully armed

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    Ben, what gun are you planning on using? It will decide what class you shoot.
     
  12. BenLuby

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    Leaning heavily toward the XDm .40.
     
  13. ArizonaLawman

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    Robbie IS The Great One....period. He DOES make it look easy. Rob is one of those guys who just runs his gun like it's a part of him...or he is part of the gun. Either way, it is truly like watching the master.

    Like I said....I was having my best day ever, and he was recovering from double knee surgery, and he still won the stage and match (we're all used to that out there). I have never seen anyone beat him on a stage except Doug Koenig, and some of the best shooters in the southwest shoot Rio.

    We joke that above MASTER, they ought to have a new class simply called LEATHAM.
     
  14. BenLuby

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    In other words, you don't compete for first place. You're all fighting over second!!
    I've only seen a couple of people shoot that way, where it's almost like pointing a finger and boom. Target is hit, every time.
    I'll have to see if I can find some videos of him competing at home and watch.
     
  15. ArizonaLawman

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    ...or third....or fourth....

    The most competitive classes are B and C though. Guys are really fighting to move up (3 wins in your class) and most of the shooters out there are in B and C. I just like the comraderie out there in the shooting community.

    NO one (with the exception of some of the boutique gun shop snobs who wear all the stylish gear and have $4k guns and can't shoot 'em anyway) out there is a snob and EVERYONE is willing to help out, coach, loan equipment, and generally try our best to include everyone in the sport. I have seen guys lend their own guns to someone who's gun has failed so they can finish the match. I have my spare gun in my bag at all times, and will freely lend it, mags, holster, and mag pouches to someone in need. There is usually one or two Glock armorers there (me included) who will install parts or sights on someone's gun for free. All in all, it's a GREAT place to shoot and compete.

    No one is a better coach or ambassador than Leatham himself. If he knows you....he will kid you mercilessly...if you're a new shooter, he will offer advice and never be condescending.
     
  16. BenLuby

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    Realistically, that is why I am really leaning toward the IDPA. Leaning hell. I'm going to get into it. Even if I just go and watch for a while as a member, until I decide to go shoot.
    Watched numerous videos on it (Gail Pepin is scary good, but Massad Ayoob is just a freak with a firearm, and that book you recommended? Ordered it, fantastic read. Gonna make my sons read it.) and was impressed with the way they go about it.
    Just looks like fun. I won't run the classifier for a while.
    Son's want me to order the online gunsmithing course for them, so I'm going to do that so we can all learn more about the guts of them.
    But I just missed the firearms community as a whole. Now that I'm getting back into it, my wife and sons have jumped on board as well.
     
  17. ArizonaLawman

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    That's good to hear...about the family. My wife has gone from "scared of guns" whwn we first met, to enthusiastic shooter and competitor. My daughter, who is 7, just picked out her new Sig Mosquito .22lr pistol for her next birthday.

    As for competition: Remember this...ANY sport that teaches you how to run the gun, instead of the gun running you is good. Even stand-up bullseye teaches ALL the fundamentals. Steel shooting really teaches shooting on the move, and reloading. IDPA gives you the opportunity to solve "confrontational issues" with a gun. Remember though...shoot the way you would ON THE STREET, not to WIN the competition.
     
  18. BenLuby

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    Not shooting to win. Shooting to practice. The adrenaline during competition is about as close to 'real world' as you can get, which is why I'm going to get involved in it.
    Also going to look into getting into steel in a while. Don't want to jump into ten puddles at once, right?
    Wife started off with her .22 JR Higgins I bought her, bolt action, and her .380 Semi. She loves both. Then she shot my Savage Axis .270. Now? She has her own (a Remington .270) and wants to go deer hunting!!
    Still looking for a place to take her to do some around here.
    I've done the tactics shootings before, when I was in the service, and still remember most of it, but after watching several videos, I've realized some of the fundamentals have been changed.
    Sons need to learn a skill. Reality is, we're getting short on gunsmiths, even those that do the rudimentary 'parts swap' and annual 'deep clean' on firearms, and there's work to be had.
    So...let them learn a skill they like.
     
  19. bongsao1

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    There are clearly 3 types of people that shoot IDPA. Theres those guys that are not in any hurry, and just want to have a good time, nothin wrong with that. There's those guys that want to be as tactical as possible to practice as close to self defense as possible, nothing wrong with that. Laste theres those guys like me who love to compete , we upgrade our equipment within the rules and truly want to win, again nothing wrong with that.
    I shoot a S&W M&P 9L with a Apex trigger kit and fiber optic comp sights. I want to do the best I can. Play the game how you want to, its your entry fee, time and ammo. Most important be safe and have fun. If someone wants to get butthurt because "your doing it wrong" in there oppinion, thats there problem.
     
  20. BenLuby

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    In my opinion 'doing it wrong' is sitting at home on my arse watching figure skating.