IDF Tavor TAR-21

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by Yunus, May 23, 2013.

  1. Yunus

    Yunus New Member

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    Did anyone else read about this rifle in the most recent American Rifleman magazine? I was wondering if anyone had any real experience with one, looks pretty cool and if the IDF uses it then I'm sure it's been tested to be quite good but a real world review would be appreciated.
     
  2. PathfinderAFW

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    I've pulled the trigger on one but I wouldn't say I am "experienced" with it. Ergonomics felt good but to me if I was going to buy a bullpup style rifle I'd get FN's F2000.
     

  3. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'd love to have one to try out!
     
  4. ShagNasty1001

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    I've held one. Instantly fell in love and it's high on my must have list
     
  5. IXLR8

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    The LGS had them below list so I picked one up. I got the FDE 16" with a rail. It is very easy to disassemble and clean. I get about 2 MOA with milsurp ammo. It is a little unusual having all the weight at the shoulder, making the barrel light enough to feel like you can hold it up all day. There is an interesting way to brace the front of the handguard against your forearm while gripping the rifle foregrip that makes it feel very much like firing from a supported position.
    A+ on everything, but I am still getting used to the trigger. The polymer stock does seem mar fairly easily, but that does not affect function in any way.
     
  6. Yunus

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    Thanks for the input. I'll be adding it to my wishlist.... a large list growing larger :D
     
  7. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    After reading the last issue of A.R. the Tavor moved up to the top of my wish list!:D
     
  8. IXLR8

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    Here is a pic.
    The LGS had them $1800.00
    The FDE ACOG added a bit to the price. A very good match for the rifle.
     

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  9. ShagNasty1001

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    It's impossible to express my jealousy and envy of you right now.. Congrats!!
     
  10. anm2_man

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    I picked this one up last month.

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    Its a Hoot to Shoot. I've tried just about every Milsurp/factory & wolf ammo in it and it hasn't missed a beat. I have not yet selected any optic's for it, but @ 75 yds, I can consistently hit a 12" plate.
     
  11. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have a spare EOTech sitting on the bench waiting for it.:p
     
  12. leschrn

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    Just checked a local gun shop and asked I'd they were going to get any in. The guy said that he didn't know if the owner was going to order any but I was the second person today to ask about it.
     
  13. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Wouldn't it drive the antis crazy if these started selling by the tens of thousands:D:D
     
  14. leschrn

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    It would be fan****ingtastic. Then maybe the price would come down some.
     
  15. Tackleberry1

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    Read the article and all looked good until hitting the spec column on the last page.

    12 lb trigger! :eek: are you EFFING kidding me? $1600 to $2000 for a 12 LB TRIGGER PULL!

    Drop the price to Kel Tec ranges so it's IN LINE with it's Kel Tec trigger... and I'll think about it.

    Tack
     
  16. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There have been two evaluations of it on the military channel.

    I'll still take one, sh!tty trigger and all!

    Look how crappy the triggers are on the 10-22 and the Mini-14 yet they still sell like hotcakes.:D
     
  17. Yunus

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    I think it all comes down to purpose. This rifle does not seem to be designed for 200+ yard engagements, its a close combat rifle where a heavier trigger may be by design to reduce the chance of accidental discharge and that is acceptable even if it costs a little accuracy.
     
  18. Tackleberry1

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    As a "select fire" military arm... Sure. The M16A2 trigger sucked almost as bad but again... It's a military rifle.

    I think the majority of civilian shooters who are attracted to semi auto versions of issue military rifles are looking for a SHTF firearm... and if that situation you will not have a "designated marksman" backing you up.

    IMHO, the geometry of the bull pup defeats it's own intended goal. The whole benefit of ^^THIS^^ design is to shorten the overall length without needing to shorten the barrel and loose the velocity and accuracy that comes with it. Brilliant idea but until someone figures out how to overcome the geometrical trigger issue and build one of these that's does not feel like shooting a Kel Teck... It will remain a novelty and continue to be passed over by those who know what an effective self loading rifle needs to be.

    Tack
     
  19. anm2_man

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    I just love bigot posts. There are alot of people that can't accept change. But that is ok. My personal feeling is that if the IDF didn't replace almost all of their M16's with Tavors/Sars, I would say the same thing. But they did. If its good enough for the IDF, its good enough for me.

    Cheers.

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  20. Tackleberry1

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    Sure they do... but a 10/22 will run you $149.00 at Bi Mart and you can still find Mini's for under $600.00... before the Newtown I was seeing Minis as low $350.

    To each his own partner but I would not consider it until someone comes out with a far better trigger... which I don't know is possible given the geometry of the bull pup.

    Tack