I would too - how about you?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Mister Dave, Jun 30, 2020.

  1. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    You do you. Leave other folk to deal with things as they see fit. Works really well.
     
  2. tinbucket

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    They made best use of their firearms! They prevented the Terrorists from attacking their property or themselves by displaying their firearms and ready to shoot if need be. The Communist Democrats have the sword of prosecution hanging over Citizens heads if they do anything to hamper or impede the Democrats protected Terrorist Groups. or any criminal.
    I have wondered how many Honorable Citizens have lost their lives because of fear of certain arrest and prosecution..if they were to use firearms, to save their lives and property. In some cases they lost their lives out of a hesitation because of the threat and others they didn't have a firearm or weren't allowed to possess one, or just didn't try to use it because the Socialists/Communists are working overtime to disarm us, so their Mobs won't even have to worry about being shot. Most Americans don't care how many Communists get killed in our defense of self and property and Nation. Better the Gimme Gimme Or I will Kill You Communists Tyranny Loving Predators are killed than we suffer death and destruction from them!
     
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  3. sheriffjohn

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    This particular demonstration did not degenerate into chaos as others have, probably because is was organized by well-known local political figures and not outside agitators with the focus on the mayor. She released the names and addresses of some who wanted to defund police, etc. in her press conference a short time before. Some may remember a media clip of a protester in an earlier event saying "We're coming to the suburbs ". Well, that's what this was. Political leaders' homes have been targetted in other cities as well.

    It's happened before in St. Louis and liikely will happen again. What we didn't see here was a wall of cops daring marchers to disperse, no quick shops to burn, wig stores to loot, or much else handy to fire up a crowd. That neighbors responded to the lawyers as not representing them says quite a bit for the neighborhood's take on the event and their feelings toward the lawyers. Meanwhile, down in other parts of St. Louis, not all the fireworks are "Black Cat" firecrackers tonight. Some are AK's and Ravens. Every night.

    Because they can.
     
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  4. Ghost1958

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    Yep . Its honestly surprising there was a firearm in that neighborhood as its very lefty libby . No surprise the sheeps grazing there would sign a letter condemning the only two that stood up for themselves.
    Several towns have armed up and met the thugs who decided there were safer places to riot and left.

    They only understand the threat of greater violence from armed citizens in return if they start to riot burn and loot.
     
  5. G66enigma

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    What is breaking down barriers and forcibly entering property they know for a fact isn't theirs, that's expressly posted as not being theirs? Exactly that, isn't it?

    Little different from Bob's country lane to his home, gated and marked clearly, with gate busted down by a mob because they disregard property rights.

    Little different from John's barn, where clearly gated and locked, busted down so they can spend the night or frolic in the hay loft or whatever.

    Little different than ...

    Point was: the folks there knew one thing for absolute certain: the property they forcibly entered via busting up the gates wasn't theirs, not by any stretch. Which puts them in the wrong, which makes them forcible entrants, which effectively justifies people who are on that property to stand firm and say "That's far enough; no further damage/encroachment to this property.".

    Encroachers hate that, of course. Being told "No." So do media scallywags who support such lawless disregard for things.


    Of course, none of this means I support unjustifiable threats against others. And if it turns out that, legally speaking, there were threats initiated and leveled by one or the other of these homeowners at the crowd, and it couldn't be justified legally by a "reasonable person," then they deserve being held to account for that. Absolutely.

    Irrespective of what one might think about standing at one's doorstep and disallowing further encroachments.

    It's valid for Bob the farmer to do it at his farm, at his doorstep, overlooking his yard and the country lane, as a mob approaches where they violently entered the property.

    It's valid for John and Joan Q. Public at their home in suburbia as well.

    For all the obvious reasons.

    So long as the actions are "reasonable" and justified.
     
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  6. sheriffjohn

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    Protesters came back last night (Friday, July 3rd). Haven't seen much on this one. BLM yard sign showed up in a yard across the creek from our farm. Might be a trophy like dried-out catfish heads and deer skulls at others' yards around here. Don't know nor care.
     
  7. Gatoragn

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  8. Ghost1958

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  9. Pro2A

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    Me personally would’ve had my weapon at the low ready, video proof of some sort, my phone notifying 911, and also giving the protestors verbal warning. They already broke their gate and one could only imagine what would’ve happened if they weren’t armed. Now according to some these people weren’t nice individuals, which can be debatable. However, whether someone is nice or not doesn’t give anyone the right to trespass on their property; your home is where you’re suppose to feel the most safest.
     
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  10. freefall

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    On vey. Nine pages of this stuff, I'm on #1 and I'm already tired.
    I can guess who says what who likes whom...
    I should just practice my guitar.
     
  11. Trunk Monkey

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    Yep, because people just randomly show up and volunteer to mount armed guard on somebody ELSE'S house.
     
  12. Trunk Monkey

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    I suspect that Ken and Barbie are regretting their actions at this point
     
  13. Gatoragn

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    They were interviewed on Fox last night and said they hired security. Said multiple companies declined to take the job.
     
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  14. Gatoragn

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    From the Hannity interview last night:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/armed-st-louis-homeowner-protests-mccloskey

    "[They said] that they were going to kill us," Patricia McCloskey added Monday night. "They were going to come in there. They were going to burn down the house. They were going to be living in our house after I was dead, and they were pointing to different rooms and said, 'That’s going to be my bedroom and that’s going to be the living room and I’m going to be taking a shower in that room," she recalled.

    The couple said protesters also threatened to harm their dog, who was outside at the time of the incident.

    "They said 'I’m going to be killing her, too,'" Patricia told Sean Hannity.
     
  15. Nmwabbit

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    the idiots believe in the 18th century European folktale Henny Penny storey !
     
  16. G66enigma

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    Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    Of course, the mob-carried video snippets didn't include any of these provocative threats they claim were hurled at them. And so, most folks won't ever believe such things are true.

    I wonder if nearby surveillance vids, recordings and eyewitness testimonies are going to back up what these two say they heard flung at them. If loud enough, if neighbors were nearby, perhaps.


    One of the nice things about being in a SYG/Castle type state: they've got to have fair certainty there couldn't have been a "reasonable" threat or reasonable justification for taking a defensive stance where warning/threatening/using deadly force is done.

    Hopefully they can make their case to whatever investigators (or GJ) get with them.

    I wonder though, if they wouldn't be better served by shutting their yaps and instead speaking through their attorney(s).
     
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  17. Ghost1958

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    Thanks. I don't have TV so I was only relying on that article.
     
  18. Ghost1958

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    I doubt it. They protected themselves and property while breaking no MO law.

    The only one talking about prosecuting them is the libby lefty prosecutor they have there, while even some senators are warning doing so would " be an abuse of power".
    She has problems of her own stemming from her past performance or lack of while in office.
    Apparently the mob did learn to stay on the PUBLIC side of the fence.
     
  19. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    The only interview I've seen was with Tucker Carlson and the man had his lawyer with him.
     
  20. Trunk Monkey

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    That's the only person that needs to be talking about prosecuting them
     
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