I was planning on getting an H&K USP .45. Your thoughts on this?

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  1. Ploofy

    Ploofy New Member

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    For my first handgun I was planning on getting an H&K USP .45. Your thoughts on this? Is it a good gun? Should I get it new or used? Is the ammo too expensive? Any trouble or something specific to the gun I need to know about?
     
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  2. 007BondJamesBond007

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    First thing all ammo is expensive. .45ACP is about twice that of 9mm. As far as the HK it is a well made firearm. If it fits you hand and it is accurate get it. Your going the get 100's of different opinions on what to buy. Bottom line is get what works for you.
     

  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    H&K makes great stuff. If you have a specific need for the .45, like back-country gun, then go for it.

    If you are planning on this gun being a very well used range gun, then .45 may be expensive. Most economical round will always be .22lr. Most economical defense round will be the 9mm.
     
  4. cpttango30

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    Might want to start a little smaller.

    I would say get a Ruger MkIII or Browning Buckmark or Beretta Neos or Smith 21A and get a handle on the basics of pistol shooting with one of them.

    Many will say of the 22lr is a sissy round. I say it is great to learn on. You can devlope your basic pistol marksmanship skills and have fun all at the same time.

    Then you can step up to the bigger guys.

    I have a 1911, Ruger MkII, and a Beretta Neos guess which one is shot the most?

    Not my 1911 my Ruger and Beretta are shot the most with the Beretta getting the not ans my most shot pistol.
     
  5. Ploofy

    Ploofy New Member

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    I am already a more than adequate shot with all types of guns, handguns included, so I'm not really looking for a training gun. I'm not really sure what I want a gun for...it would get range use, but I would probably also carry it when going hiking or into someplace that I may need a self defense weapon, but I want something big enough to take out something like a cougar, in case I ever walk into a killing zone unarmed again.

    EDIT: Oh, and I'm 16, so I'm not really sure what the laws say I can carry or even own.
     
  6. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Then I assume you're picking out your father's next gun.

    I'd feel comfortable carrying 9mm in cougar country. I'd feel more comfortable carrying .40.

    I don't have a problem with a .45 as a first pistol, but I can pretty well guarantee you that a .22 will be one of your first 2 or 3 pistols. Everybody has to have a at least one .22 pistol. There always comes a point where you realize your more interested in more holes in paper than the size of holes in the paper.
     
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  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Wisconsin, lived there, moved out.
    Check the laws. Underage and unsupervised with a handgun could create problems if caught. Before carrying, check with DNR and the state statutues.

    I am not trying to provide legal advise. I think you should be more aware of the situation you can unknowingly get in to.

    Cougars in Wisconsin? If you plan on hunting out of state, check their laws, too.
     
  8. cpttango30

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    First you say nothing to your shooting skills other than I AM LOOKING FOR MY FIRST GUN. When people start talking about a first gun they are normally new to guns all together. You then get pissy because we say 22lr but you don't say in your OP that you have been shooting for 1 day of 10 years. At 16 I was shooting 44mags and 357 mags.

    OK You are not sure what you want it for. Your 16 and can't legally own or carry a pistol but your going to carry anyways.
    You want a pistol big enough to take out a cougar if you walk into the killing field UNARMED. Can someone tell me the size of a pistol that will kill a cougar if you are UNARMED. I am assuming that you mean not carrying a pistol and not unarmed as in had both your arms cut off.

    OH man Let your dad pick out the guns.
     
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  9. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    :confused:

    There was nothing in his response to indicate he was getting pissy.
     
  10. Ploofy

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    I have a few H&K's, and they are among the Great guns I have, I like that they can operate in single action such as 1911 as well as DA/SA. They also have a recoil attenuation system built into them. So unless you can't deal with a sort of shove of a kick, and are new to shooting stay away and start with a quality .22lr.

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  12. sweeper22

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    By almost all accounts, USPs are excellent firearms. They're also very spendy. Personally, they're not something that I would consider a great "value"...at least for my preferences.

    But it you've fondled one a bit and are truly enamored, what the heck?

    With that said, it might be worth at least exploring a Sig P220. You could get ahold of a P220 in 22lr, add the 45acp acp conversion top end (Sig X-Change kit), and have it all in a tight package for $900 or so.
     
  13. 753X0

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    Don't see anything about "spendy", or being sensitive to the recoil of a .45ACP. Like I said in my previous post, the H&K USP has a recoil reducing system. It makes the recoil feel more like a mushy shove than the sharper kick you'd feel from others, especially revolvers. I also mentioned that the H&K can be carried SA, such as a 1911 type or DA/SA like a Sig.
    Sweeper, Whats a lot of money to you, may not be a big deal to others.
     
  14. sweeper22

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    When a guy is asking if ammo will be too expensive, cost is figuring into the equation at least to some extent.

    I don't think that $800 (or $2800 for that matter) is too much to spend on a firearm. But like I specifically spelled out, for my preferences an HK wouldn't be a great value. A Sig P220 might be. For my preferences, a $600 Glock wouldn't be a great purchase. A $400 Glock might be.

    Just my own preferences. "Value" is more about one's priorities than the weight of his wallet. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.
     
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  15. silentghost

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    Love the USP that I have. Don't really shoot it a whole lot, but it goes bang evertime. Has great balance. To ME, I feel it is a bit large to easily conceal, however it can be done. But being Wisconsin and you can carry openly AND NOT CONCEALED it won't be a big deal. (after you turn 21) then you should be good to go.
     
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  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    When did they go to legal concealed without a permit?
     
  17. silentghost

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    I read and type alittle bit too fast. Thanks. Edited post.