I want to reload

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by ninjatoth, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I been watching videos and reading info online and I think i'm going to start reloading.I have saved about 750 .44 magnum brass in the event that one day I might try it,and I think i'm going to go for it.I read that I need a press,probably single stage,dies,calipers,a good manual,powder scale or measure and other optional parts to get started.Any advice to me seeing as I never done this before?Also,I am only going to reload .44 magnum for awhile,so any caliber specific advice might be helpful too.
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    You will also need a shell holder- little thing that connects to your press, catridge case slides into it- change when you change calibers. You will also need powder, large pistol primers, and bullets. Some case lube would not hurt. Depending on press you may also need a priming tool.

    Get a good load data manual, but for now, you can get along by going to the website for a powder manufacturer, and downloading THEIR reccommended loads.

    Starting load is called that for a reason. Start there, and work up. Go find a copy of The ABCs of Reloading- used is good- and read it before buying anything.
     

  3. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Looks like you have the hardware fairly well covered. The Speer manual
    (and I believe the Lyman) have a good step by step walkthrough of the
    process in the front of the book. Take it slow, double check everything.


    Lots if info out there on the 44 mag.

    You picked a heck of a time to get started! Primers are almost
    impossible to find, and when you do find some expect them to be
    expensive. Bullets? Good luck. Powder? It's out there but you
    have to look a bit.
     
  4. CapnJack

    CapnJack New Member

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    I just started awile back so i kinda gathered some b4 SHTF with the supply line. Im enjoying the hell out of it and learning tons just from the good folk on here. I am havin trouble substatuting other materials because im just buying what i can get ofcourse,but im always up fora challenge. Stay safe and do ur homework, i didnt even load a full round until 2-3weeks after i got my setup. Didnt feel i was ready info wise yet.
     
  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Get the ABCs and Lyman or Speer manual.

    Then buy equipment.

    And if you know an experienced loader, ask him to be your mentor until you learn the ropes.

    Check with your LGS or local gun club and see if anyone in your area offers reloading classes.
     
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    shadecorp Active Member Supporter

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  7. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    Thanks guys,I am going to continue to gather information and get a book before I attempt to reload,but I am an information sponge and specific things I tend to remember well,so seeing as i'm only going to reload .44 mag,maybe 44 special and 444 marlin for my buddy if it's possible with the same dies,is the large pistol primers the ones you use for .44mag/special?And,I have seen alot of videos where people use Hodgdon H110 powder in .44 mag-is that a good powder?What are some good powders and primers for .44 mag?Just any info on the .44 mag I can get now to think about would be helpful.
     
  8. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Large pistol magnum primers
    H110 powder
    Quality bullets (lead or jacketed)

    And you're good to go.:):)
     
  9. rockratt

    rockratt Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I use W296 and CCI 350 primers. H110 is also a good powder for the 44. I prefer jacketed bullets(Hornady XTP's) but lead are cheaper.
     
  10. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    I started with Accurate #5 for .44 special. Winchester LP primers with 180gr RNFP lead. Worked up a pretty mild load that makes for pretty pleasant range ammo. I'm considering moving to a slower burning powder for my next batch or when I start reloading mag cases. Those I'll be loading with a 240gr SWC lead bullets.
     
  11. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Winchester 296 and H110 are the same powder.:)
     
  12. bclark1

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    If you are looking for a press hornady has some nice presses that are fairly cheap. I have just a single stage press but now a good progressive press looks like it would have been nice to speed things up.
     
  13. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I am looking into some single stage startup kits from Lee,and one kit has a "safety prime" and one has an "auto prime",I got an idea of how both work but what do you guys like better?
     
  14. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    Reloading

    IMO, I like using a hand primer if I'm not going to be loading a bucket full. It gives me more "feel" seating the primer. The one I use now is made by RCBS but I used one from Lee for years till I broke it. They both have a primer tray that you just dump 100 primers in and shake them to get them with the anvil side up and put the cover on and your ready to go. (actually you will need to use your finger or something to help get them all turned up right.) If you going to load mostly 44 Mag/Spec, 444 Marlin then I don't think you need calipers for now unless you already have some or just want them. Almost all the bullets you will use for those calibers have a cannelure/crimping groove and thats where you will seat the bullet to before applying a nice roll crimp. Even if you get a power measure your gonna need a scale of some kind to set the measure plus I like to double check the charge about every 10 rounds. I like the electronic ones best. I have one from RCBS that I have used for years but I also have one from Frankford Arsenal thats about the size of an ipod that cost around $20 and it works great. The classic powder for 44 mag. is 2400 but it does burn a little dirty. As far as primers you may need large pistol for the Spec. and large pistol magnum in the Mag. or both may call for Magnum primers. Us what the manual calls for cause it makes a difference in the pressure curve. Btw you can't have too many manuals. I just went and counted and I have around 25, but I like books. And another btw, I wouldn't recommend reloading for anyone else. Damn, time for me to STFU. Good luck.
     
  15. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    thanks for the heads up and advice,I have a ways to go before i'm comfortable to get started,but I have made leaps and bounds in the last week in understanding the process.If it matters at all,the only gun i'm going to fire the reloads out of is a S&W 629 6" if that makes any difference in what sort of load I should think about making.I want to make some self defense loads and hunting loads,probably both in 240 grain,I'm thinking a 240gr @ 1,000fps and a 240gr@ 1,400 fps.
     
  16. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    Thats a good gun to start with. The first gun I ever reloaded for was a S&W 629 with 8 3/8" barrel. For the lighter load try some cast lead bullets. They're cheaper and at 1000 fps they should work just fine. I cast my own but you can buy what you need. That is if you can find them during this panic buying. I have 2 bottom pour pots and probably over 1000 lbs of wheel weights so I should be covered there. You will develop your own style over time but if I plan on loading a bunch of handgun ammo I use the Dillion 550B. I can pretty easy do 300 rds/hr. But most of the time I use a Lyman T-Mag press. I usually just put 50 sized and primed cases in a loading block and set the measure to drop a charge about a grain less that what I want and then use a trickler to bring it up so the full charge. After I get all 50 cases charged I check them with a flashlight to make sure all the charges look right and then seat the bullets and either roll or taper crimp depending on if it for a revolver or pistol. When you pick a power keep in mind that a ball or flake powder will meter through a measure better than a stick powder. And another thing to think about is if you pick a powder charge that over half fills the case you can never mess up and double charge a case cause it will run over. That should get your attention every time. Its all fun.
     
  17. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The 240 grain is a good hunting bullet.
    If you're going to use that 29 for defense, I think you would be better served with 180 grain bullets.
     
  18. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    For defense

    For defense I would use factory ammo. No reason to hand some lawyer the argument that factory ammo just wasn't deadly enough for you. You had to load up your own super dupper nuclear dum dum punk terminator load.:D
     
  19. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That's a very good point. Still like 180 grain bullets, though. Hand loads to duplicate the factory defense loads for practice.

    I get 1650 FPS from my factory and hand loads in my 7 1/2 inch Redhawk.
     
  20. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    180 grain bullet

    I agree with the factory 180 grain for self defense. It would be easier to control so you could reload practice loads and keep factory foder for punks and zombies. Keep the 240 and 300 grain stuff for yetis. :D