I carried a .357 snubby for years. And the only ammo I used and swore by was Buffalo Bore Ammunition. 38 Special 158gr SWC. freaking awesome round!! Nothing eles. Well a friend of mine finally talked me out of it and I bought a new PX4 full size with the $$. Now I use my Px4sc 9mm for EDC. I must admit, I am totally ignorant in the ways for 9mm SD ammo. Buffalo Bore only make +P+ in 9mm. That just sounds to hot for my PX4. Im not asking the "What's the best 9mm ammo for SD" question. I see those all over the place. Im looking for real advice. maybe you heard something and found out it really does the job. I want Buffalo Bore power!!! Pass it on. thanks for the helps guys.