I NEED a good lawyer.

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by chrisrhodes1110, Feb 27, 2013.

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  1. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    I was recently stopped, disarmed, questioned, and searched by police for the sole reason that I was carrying a rifle on my back. I broke no laws and was driven home by the police.
    This is a clear violation of what is considered justified Terry search. Does anyone know any aggressive civil liberties attorneys that would want to take up a case like this?
    I live in Vermont and have called multiple law offices with no luck, people don't even know where to point me.
     
  2. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Contact the NRA. They have rosters of pro-gun attorneys.
     

  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Fathead00 New Member

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    My question is "why are you walking around with a rifle on your back?". The NRA would be you best chance of finding a lawyer.
     
  5. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    well I went shooting and i thought I was gonna get a ride home with the person who drove me and my friend there, but apparently they had planned otherwise. I was just walking home.

    In Vermont we allow open or concealed carry without paperwork of rifles and pistols. I'm 22 with a clean criminal record.
     
  6. kytowboater

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    What type of rifle was it out of curiosity?
     
  7. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I understand that breech of law here, but were you charged with any crime?
     
  8. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    I think that's kinda irrelevant but it was a Norinco Mak-90 (Clinton Ban Era)
     
  9. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    No, I wasn't charged because I wasn't committing a crime. But now I'm gonna be put into the news paper and they marked me as some sort of "gun owner" in their police database, or possibly a threat to police, I'm not sure. The officer on the other hand preformed a Terry Search on me...For doing nothing but following the law.
     
  10. kytowboater

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    I don't blame them for stopping to ask you to verify it was a semi auto.


    The whole being searched and stuff etc is not right.
     
  11. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    It was like an hour in police custody maybe a little less.
     
  12. kytowboater

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    Did they say you were under arrest or why you were being detained.
     
  13. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    LOL, I wouldn't blame them for stopping and asking a couple questions, but they actually never checked to see if my rifle was loaded or semi-auto. Just took it and tossed it in their trunk right away. As I said I wouldn't mind a couple questions, but it wasn't a couple questions. They were interrogating me trying to get to to slip up or admit to hunting, smoking weed, and lying about my identity.
     
  14. kytowboater

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    Did you ask for a ride home, or explain to them why you were waking. If the story you tell us is true, that's nice of them to give you a ride, and they searched you for their SAFTEY. I would have done the same.
     
  15. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    He kept saying that though it was legal it wasn't alright due to current events and it was scaring people.
     
  16. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    So documenting me like a criminal is what I should thank them for? Terry V Ohio says a suspect must be beleived to be engaging in criminal activity. And in order to even Stop, nevermind search, someone you must meet two or more criteria they set down. If anything I was "out of place" but there had been no crimes committed in the area, i wasnt loitering in front of a bank, im not in a high crime area, or w/e the other tests are. Being detained and searched for having a perfectly legal rifle doesn't seem right to me. They only gave me a ride home after questioning me and searching me and finding out they had nothing to arrest me for.
     
  17. JWagner

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    A good lawyer may tell you that you have been inconvenienced and have no legal recourse. Be ready for that possible outcome. When I needed a lawyer recently, I called the county bar association. They referred me to a lawyer (that costs $35) who got my problems sorted out for the grand price of $100.
     
  18. chrisrhodes1110

    chrisrhodes1110 New Member

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    Doesn't this seem like a breach of the 2nd amendment and 4th amendment? As well as both of Vermont's equivalents. Not to mention Terry v Ohio and the tests an officer has to pass in order to even stop someone. Then there is Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. 266 (2000) which I think it almost a mirror of what happened to me, except I wasn't committing a crime.
     
  19. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Chris- I am NOT a lawyer. Nor are the other folks responding to you.

    If you are asking for opinions- yeah, everybody got one or two- does not mean they are worth anything.

    If you have not, you may want to read all of this carefully.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_v._Ohio
     
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