I live in NY can i own a panther arms DCM rifle?

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by mctyier, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. mctyier

    mctyier New Member

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    Hello, I live in ny and i was wondering if it is legal for me to own a dpms panther arms DCM .223 rifle? thank you!
     
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    In most of New York State, you may own an AR-15, but there are limitations. Any semi-auto rifle may have at most two of the following list of "evil" features, if it was made after September 1994:
    • Collapsible stock
    • Bayonet lug
    • Pistol grip
    • Grenade launcher
    • Removable magazine
    • Flash hider
    • Threaded barrel
    On an AR-15, you may have the pistol grip and removable mag. The stock must be fixed (not collapsible), the bayonet lug must be ground down, there must be no grenade launcher, and if the barrel is threaded, the muzzle break must be pinned and silver-soldered in place.

    If it was made before 9/94, you may have all the normal features on it.

    As I understand it, you may not own an AR-15 within New York City limits. Some other cities in the state ban storing an AR-15 within their limits (like Rochester, near where I live), so check with your county clerk or sheriff's office.
     
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  3. mctyier

    mctyier New Member

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    thanks alot, i live up in the middle of no where in the adirondacks, so i shouldnt have to worry about that
     
  4. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    I bought one last January - a DPMS LR308B. Nice gun. It is legal in NY but there are AWB restrictions that did not sunset with the 94' AWB. Max capacity is 10 rd. magazine. Since my DPMS doesn't come with a flash supressor or bayonet lug I had no problems. My RRA AR-15 on the other hand was shipped without the standard flash supressor and without the bayonet lug under the A2 front sight. I bought my DPMS from a third party supplier however, and they shipped it with two 20 rd. mags instead of 10 rd mags. I am assuming they are pre-ban mags (which can legally be owned in NY) since post ban manufacture limits mag capacity to 10 rds. Flash supressors and bayonet lugs are NOT allowed in NY - it used to be that permanently attached (welded) muzzle devices were allowed - not anymore, and certainly not threaded and removeable.
     
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  5. c3shooter

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    RL- y'all still having that problem with drive by bayonetings, huh? (GRIN)
     
  6. coltm4

    coltm4 New Member

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    reference article 265 of the New York State Penal Law. if you go to your gun dealer they will be able to get you NY compliant firearms. getting a DCM rifle should not be a problem. i work for a small NY state agency. to my knowledge noone has been arrested or prosecuted solely under the NY state AWB. it's usually used as an additional charge for perps who've committed other crimes. but i'm not advocating adding "evil" parts to your weapon.
     
  7. RL357Mag

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    Yeah, what the hell am I supposed to do when I absolutely, positively feel the irrepressable urge to stab someone to death with my bayonet, or take up a night time ambush position without the benefit of a flash supressor? This is discrimination! lol
     
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  8. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Yes, I forgot to mention that. However, if you get completely unmarked mags or mags with date stamps before 9/94, you can have 20 and 30 round mags no problem.
     
  9. mctyier

    mctyier New Member

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    hey thanks guys, i really appreciate your help
     
  10. coltm4

    coltm4 New Member

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    right now there is no provision made to identify post sunset high capacity magazines that are brought into NY. i'm so glad my tax dollars payed for a law that can't be enforced and has no impact on violent crime!
     
  11. RL357Mag

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    I was told that LE has ways of determining the manufacture date of a magazine? Is this not true? My DPMS AR shipped from a 3rd party vendor to me in NY with (2) 20 rd. mags. I don't even think DPMS made a .308 AR before 1994!
     
  12. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    That would be some trick if the mags had absolutely no markings whatsoever. :)
     
  13. RL357Mag

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    Most mags have some markings, additionally some mags have "strengthening" grooves stamped in different locations on the sheet metal from one brand to the next and from one manufacture date to the next...I've seen it stated on another forum which is predominantly LE, that they can tell. I'd like to know if that's true, and if so , how.