I like short rifles

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by M14sRock, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    I've been unpacking from a recent move and am rediscovering some cool stuff. I've always liked short, handy rifles because they are so much easier to drag through heavy brush and thick cover.
    First up is my late 50's Win 94 in .30-30. I got it a few years ago from a local funstore, dirt cheap. The last few inches of bbl were badly blood pitted. So I cut it down to just over 16" and remounted a Marbles brass bead front sight.
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    This is a cut down No4 Mk1 Enfield that I got from Southern Ohio Gun 12-14 years ago. It has a No4Mk1 (T) bbl that was cut down to 17". Shoots great, but is very heavy due to the (T) bbl.
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    This Rem 788 (.308Win) started as a full length rifle in a birch stock. I got it well used for my 16th birthday, so we go back a way. I cut the bbl to 17" and mounted a first gen Vortex FH, reshaped the stock to fit my weld, shortened the forend, mounted an Ashley Express (XS Sights) rear peep sight sight and painted the whole thing with Gunkote and Aluma Hyde 2. A huge change from the original package that wasn't getting used anymore.
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    Last is my Turk Mauser 98. Also cut to 17", Hogue Overmolded stock, Aimpoint Comp ML3 & MeOpta 6x42 (both in QR rings for easy changes). The whole rifle is Gunkoted OD Green, and the stock is Aluma Hyded.
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  2. c3shooter

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    Very nice! Especially like that Turk! How does it shoot for you?

    BTW, there are a bunch of older Winchester levers in 44-40 that are on the ATF C&R list and have been REMOVED from the National Firearms Act list- they have 14 and 15" bbls- and do not require registration as Short Barreled Rifles- but PRICY!
     

  3. CA357

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    I had a Ruger .44 Carbine, two Inland carbines at different times, a Marlin 1895SS in 45/70, a Marlin 1894C in .357 and a LE model Mini14. All of them were a pure pleasure to shoot.

    I like short rifles too. :D
     
  4. Gatekeeper

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    Whats the muzzle blast like on the enfield:eek:
    Neat looking 303. Nice work! You do yourself?
     
  5. M14sRock

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    The Turk shoots great. I bought several of them at Big5 for very cheap. This one was mechanically perfect, but the stock was hammered, multiple repairs, etc. Perfect for my project.

    I had not heard that the old Wins were taken off the NFA list. NICE!
     
  6. M14sRock

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    I had a Ruger .44, too. Very fun. I shot it in a police match once for giggles. Bent the plates something fierce. Oops! Mine had a cracked stock, which seems to be common with them. Got rid of it years ago.

    I have a couple of M1 carbines. Will dig them out and post pics. I had an 1895 .45-70 that Phil Sims made into a takedown for me in the early 90's. Had him turn the bbl down to a trimmer profile, mount some Steyr SSG sights and port it, too. Ended up giving that one to my dad. It was very cool, and one of a kind.
     
  7. M14sRock

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    It is not too bad if you're firing it. Ha. I got it that way from Southern Ohio Gun. They said they were "experimental British Para Trooper carbines". Yeah, sure. But I do think the conversion was done in the 60's, like they said. The wood all matches, and you can see where the cut end was oiled along with the orig places on the stock. SOG would not have done that, so I think they got them that way. But who knows?

    Another member on my home forum has the same rifle, but he's never fired his.
     
  8. CA357

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    The Ruger .44's tend to crack around the wrist. Mine was an early/no magazine model and I kick myself for selling it. I recently saw it for sale on the same website where I sold it. Except it was for sale for $200. more than when I sold it. Otherwise I might have tried to buy it back.

    I recently bought back my first .357, a 4" GP100. :rolleyes:
     
  9. shoez

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    I too am a short rifle fan. I 've been looking at a Ruger 77 compact in 308. A 16.5" barrel is pretty handy.
     
  10. Silvertip 44

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    Very nice Enfield. I wish I still had the one I sold (gave away) in 1965.
    Put that USGI web sling on that nice rifle properly before you drop it and end up with a ding on the stock.
     
  11. M14sRock

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    Yeah, I don't even know how that got on there. It has been buried in the safe for a few years. And I have several orig Enfield web slings laying around here, too. Ha.
     
  12. mattb348

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    Wow you do really nice work. You wouldn't ever even know that you cut the end of the barrel off of that guns at one point :)
    I have an uncle that does this, but he actually cuts the stock to make the guns shorter.

    Does cutting the actual barrel affect the accuracy at all? I figured if you cut the barrels off of rifles that it would mess with the rifling in the barrel. Is this true?
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  13. M14sRock

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    Stock work is easy. Minor metal work is fairly easy, too. Anyone can do that stuff.

    But for cutting the bbls, I rely on Jim Hoag and Dean Wilkerson, two excellent local gunsmiths.

    I just tell them how I want it and they deliver the finished product. They do all the heavy lifting.
     
  14. Laufer

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    Yes, short rifles and carbines.:)

    Mini 30, SKS, MN 44 and now two LE #5s "Jungle Carbines" (plus a fun #4). Only iron sights.

    These small LEs are so handy/lightweight, but still have a deadly bite-like a short cobra.
    Wish I could find the brief Internet description of the encounter with a charging grizzly. The guy had stopped to take a leak, and his Jungle Carbine stopped it with four shots.

    Not being a hunter, my question is, where are the best places to hit a large bear with the .303, in the head or neck?
     
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