I have, too, shot autoloaders........

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Bob Wright, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. Bob Wright

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    Most folks hereabouts think of me as a crusty old sixgunner with no auto loader time. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here is my current auto loader:

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    Ruger, of course, 22/45. Nice, accurate little gun. Sort of a pain to keep refilling that magazine, but otherwise pleasant to shoot.

    I've had considerable experience with autoloders. I shot both .22 and .45 on Army pistol teams during the mid 'Fifties. Owned a Colt Gold Cup for awhile. Used a borrowed .38 Special Gold Cup for awhile. My favorite pistol remains the .45 Government Model or Gold Cup.

    Two things I didn't really like about autos, they are short range propositions, seventy five yards about their limit, and the peculiar recoil characteristics of autoloaders. And, well, really three things, they throw my brass everywhere, a pain to retrieve.

    My Gold Cup .45 was a good gun out to about seventy five yards on crows. Never used one on groundhogs, but friend of mine used an AMT Hardballer to good effect out to fifty~seventy-five yards on the critters.

    But the recoil! There are three distracting "impulses" to me: the recoil of firing, the slide hitting its stop, and the jolt of the slide closing chambering a new round. Then, on the last shot, the lack of the last two impulses. This, plus the bright blur of the ejected case, I find distracting.

    And the Luger has that toggle link jumping up into your line of sight, often times silhouetted in the muzzle flash.

    So, pardon me if I stick with my revolving cylinder pistols.

    Bob Wright
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Bob, I understand your position, but I have to counter....

    I like the semi-auto over the revolver (though I do have some wheel guns). I have taken more than $1 on bets when using my 10mm at distances over 130 yard on the shooting range.
    The brass kicking up and out is a good reason to exercise (the .38 Super shuffle). It is also nice when the wife picks up the brass (her bending over and such).

    The recoil is kinda like a scotch whiskey (you "acquire" it).

    Everyone has the right to their opinion, and I do respect yours.

    But my wish is that everyone would try to find what works for them, and do it in a safe manner.
     

  3. Bob Wright

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    Make no mistake, I'm not putting down anyone else's choice, just stating my own, after considerable experience.

    Bob Wright
     
  4. JonM

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    Checkout a handy little thing called "ultimate clip loader" best invention for 22pistols EVER!!!
     
  5. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I've shot both, and honestly I love both. I certainly understand having a preference though. I guess I'm just not a picky shooter. :D
     
  6. Old_Crow

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    I don't know what it is about me but if I get my hands on it I have to shoot it. I have shot everything but a damascus barrel shotgun. If I get my hands on a damascus barrel shotgun I will likely find a way to fire it. But when the chips are down and my life is on the line I want a big revolver that I can use as a hammer if I need too. That is nothing more than my two cents worth.

    Shoot whatever you please in a manner that represents gun owners in a positive light. That is my advice for all my friends here. :)
     
  7. JonM

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFM9YFbKak[/ame]

    here this is it
     
  8. The_Kid

    The_Kid New Member

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    Is the "crusty" part still in question? ;)
     
  9. Bob Wright

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    That depends upon whom you ask.

    Bob Wright
     
  10. BeyondTheBox

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    You're an interesting sort of fella, Bob. I can only speak for myself here, but I hadn't, at all, assumed you this "crusty old revolver diehard". I actually figured you one to own several autoloaders as well as revolvers, perhaps, even, an equal amount of each.

    I see your points though; very valid reasons. About the brass spitting, its very true, my semis throw them like crazy and each gun, of course, does so in a different direction and distance. I use a large tarp and stand to the left front side of it, then just pickup the edges, when done, and they all fall to the middle. The ocassional stray will miss, but overall I find it a very efficient way of handling the situation.

    I still find it so interesting what will affect one but not another, in anything. I have no issues with anticipation of the slide blowback or racking. I'd guess it has something to do with what you started with or grew up using and seeing being used. I can't blame one for being uneasy with the idea of some large hunk of metal flying back toward their face at alarming speed. The thought never even crosses my mind.

    Great gun you've got there, Bob. I've thought seriously about picking up a 22/45 several times, may still yet, someday.

    Anyway, happy hunting/shooting
    BTB
     
  11. Bob Wright

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    I don't think I made my point about this clearly. I'm not worried about the slide coming back at me. I'm familiar with most autos to know when they are correctly assembled and in good firing condition.

    What I do find distracting is the slight "jolt" of the impact of the slide hitting the rearward stops, as it gives me a second recoil "impulse", for lack of a better word. While a revolver just has the impulse of the cartridge firing, or recoil, the auto has three distinct "jolts" as the gun fires, except when the last round is fired and the gun does not return to battery.

    Bob Wright
     
  12. BeyondTheBox

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    No, I understood, was just addressing an aditional point to the same instance. I'm extremely tangential and tend to become seemingly incomprehensible and continuitiless because of it. Sorry to confuse the issue.
     
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  15. Old_Crow

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    I like the idea of a speed loader but my 10/22 does have a slight change in the point of impact after 50 rounds. By the time I reload two magazines and shoot the bull for a bit the barrel has cooled off and the point of impact has returned to normal. When I am putting a rabbit in the pot I want to pop him in the eye. Not have a bad point of aim because I have become accustomed to shooting with a hot barrel.

    What can I say? I like my rabbit with no holes in the eating part.
     
  16. Old_Crow

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