I have a $2,000 AR build budget, advice please!

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by EOD51, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. EOD51

    EOD51 New Member

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    I'm looking to build a long range precision AR, I have a build budget of 2 G's. What should I get? Thanks for your input!
     

  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just a friendly suggestion, PM one of the Mods and see if they will move this thread over to the AR sub-forum. you will probably get more traffic, suggestions and advice there.
     
  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    What distance is your longest desired range. Any sight/scope restrictions, and what do you want the bullet to accomplish at your longest range?
     
  4. EOD51

    EOD51 New Member

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    I would like to be able to reach out to 800 plus yards
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Done.

    I can't offer any suggestions to the OP but with that kind of budget I think you're going to end up with an awesome AR. Post pics when the build is complete.
     
  6. msup752

    msup752 New Member

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    For 800 yards you will need n AR10 in something like 308.
    In the AR15 platform, 6.5 Grendel is pretty much the only choice. A 20 or 24 inch barrel will be required.
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    You can get to 1000 yds with an AR in 5.56. But you will be single loading it because the required bullets will seat too long to fit in a mag. Try won't have much energy but will be fine for cutting paper for target matches (the reason I asked what you wanted the bullet to be capable of when it got to range). I can lob 5.56 bullets to 800 or 1000 yds that are less than 80 grains, but they probably won't group well after dropping back through the sound barrier. For hunting the energy levels are pretty low at that range as well.

    I agree with the post above that if you really want a long range dedicated AR, the larger .308 based rifles are a better bet. Especially if you need any real energy at that range.
     
  8. dwmiller

    dwmiller Well-Known Member

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    6.5 creedmore on an AR 10 lower is the best long rang paper puncher, purpose built for long range accuracy! Its terminal ballistics aren't great at 800+ yards. Really need more rifle if you want to do more than punch paper at that range. 260 rem , 280 rem, 338 lapua, 300 mag and 308 are other possibilities for long range work. Higher grain weight= higher energy on the target=increased recoil.

    The best long range rounds in the AR 15 are the 6.5 Grendel and the 6.8 SPC. Both are "useful" 500 yard hunting cartridges, sufficient vel/energy at this range. They can punch paper at 800-1000 but are marginal energy at this range. Pretty much anything that fits an AR15 mag is the same boat. Ssgn_doc's advice on high weight/ length bullets is spot on! A 223 custom load can reach but wont kill at these ranges.

    Long barrel is a must 22-26", so are free float handguard. Serious optics needed at this range, $800+ on glass alone.

    If you are serious about long range look into reloading, most of these rounds are $2+ a shot! The amount of practice ammo that you'll need to get comptition level accurate will easily set you back $20-$30k! The gun is the cheapest part of the equation.

    A good bolt gun in 300 win mag will do the range you want much more economically. It will also be more accurate than the AR. Something to think about!

    How much experience do you have in long range shooting? Are you just getting started? Do you have anywhere that you can practice this kind of range? Experience level Makes a helluva difference in what you need!
     
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  9. ccase39

    ccase39 New Member

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    Check out the AR forum but 2k can get you all the AR you need or would want. You can get a Rock River arms .308 for under 1500 and have the rest for ammo and gear. Or spend the extra 500 on some nice optics. 2k will buy you alot of AR these days and the prices continue to drop.

    Are you dead set on the AR? There are other rifles better for shooting long range if you aren't.
     
  10. jord1985

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    Are you dead set on the range requirement or the AR requirement ?
     
  11. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    How far do you currently shoot ? What is the furthest you have ever shot ? 800 yards takes a metric sh!t ton of practice by the average person to just get close , Im not sure you could get there dollar wise using 5.56 because your going to need a mount and scope thats going to exceed your budget to get the adjust ability you would need to make it work . If you dont have to have a AR I would be looking at a .300 win mag bolt action . its a 1000+ yard capable rifle and more in your budget . OR you could just keep saving and step up to something a bit bigger in a autoloader like the 6.5 Creedmore , Nemo .300 win mag type AR or go 50 bmg . I tDont think you can really do any of those within your budget to be honest with you
     
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  12. sandog

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    Good luck on your build. +1 on the 6.5 Creedmore or .308 in an AR-10 platform.
     
  13. sgthooah04

    sgthooah04 New Member

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    If you want an AR platform and want to build it yourself with an 800+ yard range then look into LaRue uppers. They sell both parts and complete uppers lowers pretty much all the options. I have one of their complete 5.56 stealth uppers and it makes one ragged hole at 200 m with irons. Also have built an upper with their parts, also very very good.
    They are a bit expensive but you definitely get what you pay for. For a 308 I would say an 18-20 inch barrel is all you really need. I'm not knocking the guy saying you need more. But the performance difference between 20 and 24 isn't as big as most people believe. And of you are wanting it for more then bench shooting a 20 or 18 inch make the rifle a lot more maneuverable.
    All your option depend on what you want the rifle to do at the end of the day.
     
  14. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Build two. :p
     
  15. Ez2b

    Ez2b New Member

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    I agree build 2.
    happiness is in doubles lol

    EZ
     
  16. KG7IL

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    If $2000 is budget rifle, I would absolutely love to see your build when you go all out.

    Two is fine, but if you DO HAVE the $2K for a build, it will open a lot of options.

    But don't fret it too much. Do what 'feels' good. You can use 'knowledge' on the next two or three or four . . builds.

    I would think that you have the budget for a great barrel / upper. I would also go for a 'matched upper/lower' such as AeroPrecisions or other good name.
    Keep her tight with a good barrel...
     
  17. Chalice

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    I live in Southern Illinois, by SAFB, which has a "Stand Your Ground" law. I'm a recently divorced female and generally live by myself. I have handguns in every room, that I am very famiar with and go to the range monthly. I hit what I shoot. If someone breaks in, I want to make sure that's the last thing they do. I am favoring the Colt M4 6920 with an Eotech site and laser. The shotgun idea is also growing on me. Thanks for all the input.
     
  18. formerCav

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    go to http://palmettostatearmory.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=AR-15+complete+rifles
    you can buy the 199 lower (sometimes on sale for 149) I bought a "blem" and I can't tell you what is "wrong" it works.
    and buy the upper of your choice and you will have an ar-15 for about 600 bucks.
    I hope all goes well for you. Divorces are traumatic events (even for us males)
    I bought an upper and lower from them and it all WORKS and it shoots good.
    My only other advice is to try to stick with the 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 twist barrels and you can shoot heavier bullets with them more accurately.
     
  19. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    uhhhh....i have a question about a mini 14....shall i direct it to the AR-15 forum? :p