I had this crazy idea...

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by JW357, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    So. I plan on CCing a revolver in the future, when I finally get my permit here in Kalifornia. I was thinking either a Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum or a S&W J frame, also .357.

    The gun isn't important, though. Not yet.

    Here's my idea. I wanna get an ultra-light-weight wheel gun, for comfort when carrying. I also want to be able to train with my defensive loads, in .357 Magnum, or a comparable reload, without breaking my wrist (shooting hot .357s in a lot-weight snubbie).

    So I had the idea to get it mag-na-ported. Have any of you done this in a snubbie? Is this crazy talk? I don't know much about mag-na-porting, but I went to their website and did a bit of research. They claim there's no drop in velocity. True? How much does it actually reduce felt recoil in these airweights?

    Am I crazy for thinking of mag-na-porting in a light-weight snubbie wheel gun?
     
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    There's some credibility to your idea, as you

    can chamber, and fire, the milder .38 Specials

    from a .357. If you're talking about installing

    a muzzle break on a snubbie,

    you simply don't have enough barrel. You

    would hazard your body in the process, for

    a minimal return.
     

  3. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Not a muzzle break, its like drilling holes.

    Like the snubbie in the picture here.

    http://www.magnaport.com/hgun.html
     
  4. c3shooter

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    IMHO, more than reducing recoil, it reduces muzzle jump, allowing you to stay on target for a faster second shot.
     
  5. Doc3402

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    You already have a ballistics problem with a very short barrel. Do you really want to reduce velocity and muzzle energy even more by venting some of the powder charge before the projectile gets out of the barrel?

    If it was me I would go with a heavier snubby and a better belt and holster to distribute the extra weight. I occasionally carry a stainless S&W mod 60, and even with my small frame it is barely noticeable after 5 minutes. After 10 minutes I forget it's there unless I transition from standing to sitting. The same goes for my Glock 27. I do tend to notice my 1911 in spite of good leather, but I still carry it in the winter.
     
  6. therewolf

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    Try to find someone with a ported

    snubbie and see what they think.

    Personally, I think you're already

    ahead of the game, having a caliber

    which chambers the milder round.

    And there are a LOT of great SS

    .357 snubbies out there.
     
  7. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    I've already got a S&W 66-2 with a 2.5" bbl. I could use that if I wanted to. I'd just like a light weight for CC. Is also like quicker follow on shots when shooting magnum loads.
     
  8. ninjatoth

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    1.8" barrel then ported too? I am not an expert but I'd be willing to bet that the LCR in .38spl with a +p might just about match it's power with a lot less sound and recoil.
     
  9. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    How about just manning up, and work on your hand strength. They make exercisers you can carry in your pocket that will help a bunch.
     
  10. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    I plan on shooting Magnum loads often. I suppose that'll help.

    However if I ever, God forbid, have to use my gun in self defense, I want every edge.

    So your advice to every competition shooter or hunter who wants to get mag-na-porting on his gun is to "man up?" Just because you're having a bad day, Chain, is no reason to be a d*ck.
     
  11. JW357

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    You could be right. My uncertainty is why I'm asking here if anyone has done it. Someone who has chrono'd it would be awesome.
     
  12. nixfix

    nixfix New Member

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    Chain is a dick by default it appears. No worries.
     
  13. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I had a ported 38 spl for cc and I got rid of it after I fired it on a darkened range. You can forget a fast second shot at night. I do not recommend any ported or muzzle brake equipped pistols for defense if there is any possibility of shooting it in low light. I have an SP101 2" that I load with 110 grain mags which mitigates the recoil somewhat. I usually carry 125 grain +P in my unported 38 spl snub.
     
  14. phideaux

    phideaux Active Member Supporter

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    I have 2 revolvers magnaported, it makes a LOT of difference in recoil and muzzle flip. Helps stay on target, and impact on velocity and energy is negligble.

    I CCW a revolver , that is as efficient as the .357.
    This is mine CCW, a Charter arms Bulldog .44 spcl,
    easy on recoil.

    [​IMG]


    Jim
     
  15. JW357

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    Thankes for the feedback guys. That's the kind of experiences I was looking for.

    I guess what I could do to try to mitigate the muzzle flash issue is carry a different gun when I know I'm gonna be out and about in poor light conditions.

    JTJ, aside from the muzzle flash issue, did it help, as far as you could tell, with muzzle flip?

    phideaux, interesting idea with the 44spc.
     
  16. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You can't shot the full house 357 loads in the super lite j-frame. My son bought one a few years ago and we tried to shoot the 357's and no matter how well you tried to hold the gun it would twist and rise with every shot and you had to totally re grip for the next shot. 38+p's no problem.:)
     
  17. JW357

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    Well ok, maybe not the full house loads, but certain defensive loads. But that problem is precisely why I'm asking about mag-na-porting. You may still be right. Maybe MNPing won't help enough. But again, I'd like to know before I spend the money on it (which won't be anytime soon anyway).
     
  18. phideaux

    phideaux Active Member Supporter

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    May I interject....
    The type of grips you have on a snub nose, using full load magnums, will make more, or as much difference , in your hold ,during and after shooting, than anything else.



    Jim
     
  19. JW357

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    I have some good rubber Pachmayer grips on my current snubbie and its very comfortable. Of course, its a stainless gun its slightly heavier than the ultra light ones.
     
  20. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes the porting does make a difference in recoil. It is also louder. When I run out of 125+P I will look into 110+P for the 38. The SP101 is a heavy 25 oz empty gun for a snub. It helps on recoil. 125 is manageable, 158 is a handful and 110 is very manageable. I would not want to shoot a heavy mag load in a light snub. Check out the ballistics chart below.
    http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/22.html