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Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by y0L0slick, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. y0L0slick

    y0L0slick New Member

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    I'm just starting out in the gun world, and I'm looking to make a gun purchase and need suggestions. I'm looking to get the most reliable, inexpensive weapon on the market. Any thoughts? The main uses for the weapon is self Defense and the gun range.
     
  2. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    What kind of weapon. Are you looking for a pistol, or shotgun?
     

  3. y0L0slick

    y0L0slick New Member

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    Looking to get a pistol
     
  4. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Ok with a pistol in mind. Do you have a preference on single or double action, caliber, price range, semi auto or revolver? Are you looking for a concealed carry or mainly just home defense pistol? There are a lot of variables and a lot of products out there. The one thing I will say for sure is everyone is different on what feels good in their hand or how they carry so I could give you a few of my favorites based on the answers you provide to those questions but it will boil down to how YOU like the feel and action a particular pistol.
     
  5. y0L0slick

    y0L0slick New Member

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    I'm interested in a double action pistol, semi auto. As far as price. As cheap as possible. And it's going to be for target shooting and home defense
     
  6. redfox

    redfox New Member

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    You need to find a good shop/range where you can rent guns to determine what works best for you.
     
  7. Werminator

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    Ruger has a number if good pistols for around 3 bills... or less... kel tec produces the pf9 which is pretty decently priced and I think a pretty decent little pistol. 9mm is a great all around caliber for reasonably cheap shooting practice and lots of good defensive ammo is available in the caliber too... maybe think of buying used... it is not always that much cheaper but if you do a little homework you can scoop up some great deals... also, there are a number of good websites that sell firearms through ffl transfers but this can ad transfer fees so you might inquire about those ahead of time to make sure a good deal doesn't become just okay in the process...
     
  8. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Kel-Tech has a 9mm DAO that runs around the 250 range. I have one of their .32s that I use as a backup and it has eaten everything I have given in with no problems. Ruger has the LCP which is a .380 and Sig has the P250 which runs around 360-400 I haven't had any of these pistols so I cannot comment on their reliability. As Redfox said though it's good to find a pistol range that will let you rent a few and see which one is better for you.
     
  9. orangello

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    My nephew looves his P95 9mm by Ruger, as does everybody else i know that has one. Good bang for the buck, IMO.

    If you search CDNN they have a catalog and usually list some police trade-in semi-autos; there were some S&W 5906's there for about $300, may have changed.

    If you need to spend as absolute little as possible on whatever works, J&G Sales had some police trade-in Taurus 82 revolvers for about $150, not exactly what you want, but might do the job for you. http://www.jgsales.com/taurus-82-mo...nch-barrel,-used,-good-condition.-p-6528.html
     
  10. Paladin201

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    Sorry for all the questions, but there are so many different types of guns, with so many different characteristics. And double action can mean several different things. There are basically three different breeds of double action guns.

    First of all you have the DAO (Double Action Only) guns. These guns cannot be cocked. Pulling the trigger cocks the hammer/striker on every shot. Every shot is a long, relatively heavy trigger pull. Very much like a double action revolver. These guns aren't to common, but they are out there. The Beretta 92 is offered in DAO. So is the Sig P250. There are some others, but those are the ones that come to mind off hand.

    Next you have the DA/SA (Double Action/Single Action) guns. These guns are usually hammer fired, and are intended to be carried uncocked. Some have a decocking lever to safely drop the hammer after loading. Others require you to drop the hammer manually. With the hammer down, the first shot is double action. A long, relatively hard trigger pull cocks the hammer and fires the gun. But once fired, the gun remains cocked and becomes a single action gun. All follow up shots are single action requiring only a short, light trigger pull. There are many, many models of this type. My own Bersa Thunder 9 is this type.

    Lastly, you have the guns that are sort of in between double and single action. Most of this type are striker fired guns. These guns, once loaded, leave the striker in a sort of half cocked position. Pulling the trigger still has to cock the striker the rest of the way before firing. The trigger pull is still longer and heavier than a single action, but not as bad as a true double action. So its sort of a double action, but behaves like a single action in that it has to be in that half cock position before it will fire. If you pull the trigger on one of these guns and it doesn't fire (empty or failure to fire), then pulling the trigger again does nothing. The trigger alone won't cock and fire the gun. It has to be put in that half cocked position by racking the slide. These types of guns are becoming more and more popular because they give the safety of a double action, but with a lighter trigger pull, that is the same from one shot to the next. My own Kahr CM9 is this type, as are all Kahrs. Glocks and Springfield XDs are other really good examples.

    The different types have completely different operation and feel. Strongly suggest you find a range which rents guns and try different ones until you find one that suits you. Every type has advantages and disadvantages. Some people like one. Some like another.
     
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  11. Jeepergeo

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    Before passing Go, take a Hunters Safety Course or Firearms Safety Course.

    Consider "firearm" in lieu of "weapon".

    And to repeat redfox, find a range where you can rent and try a few things before you buy so you can make an informed choice. Reading this forum will leave your head spinning with various opinions and recommendations (including this one).:D
     
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  12. Muliemaster

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    Get a copy of the gun digest look it over then go to a good gun shop an handle the ones that peak your intrest, before u buy an head out shootin take a gun safety course
     
  13. rugerjazzkohai

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    Word of caution...my friend bought a gun strictly for self and home defense but he said maximum he would spend is $250. By setting a budget, he limited his options. My argument to him was that even tho I shoot more than he, he should rent various models to get one that feels natural to him. He didn't listen and got a s&w plastic p.o.s. Took it to the range and both he and his wife preferred my guns which were not more expensive. Besides it's ur life when it comes to self defense. My advise, rent some guns and talk to more experienced shooters at the range.
     
  14. Iggy85

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    Take a look at a Hi-point 9mm. I've done little research on them and they seem to be a pretty sound firearm. U can find some that go for around $150. Just be careful when buying at a price like this. Make sure you take into account the advice of the other members and test a variety of guns out at the range frist before u buy. Good luck
     
  15. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Why the difference in terminology?
     
  16. kenhesr

    kenhesr New Member

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    Me too, Inquiring minds would like to know!
     
  17. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    I think he is referring to the term "weapon" meaning in the "defined" sense noun
    1. any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon. 2. anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire. Whereas the "definition" for firearm is "a small arms weapon, as a rifle or pistol, from which a projectile is fired by gunpowder." So it's a technicality!
     
  18. FCross7

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    Weapon typically carries with it a negative connotation.

    To me, a weapon is something you attack someone with. It can be anything, a sword, gun, knife, car, a big stick you found in the woods. I don't attack people with my firearms, so I typically refrain from calling them weapons.

    -Fred
     
  19. Cattledog

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    The hi-point is a good option, my friend's wife has one and loves it. Surprisingly accurate too. I'd recommend any Ruger p-series pistol for the all around "budget bang for your buck" though. I'll also second the need for a firearms training/safety course. Worth every penny, in so many ways.
     
  20. sweeper22

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    Forgive me if I'm stepping anyone's toes, but a Kel-Tec is a terrible suggestion. I like Kel-Tec and in fact own a pair of them. I carry my PF9 daily and it's never let me down. But their pistols are exclusively built around an ultra-light simple carry concept...they'd never be a reasonable choice for a range/HD gun. Minimalist ergos, sucky triggers, accuracy can be difficult, limited capacity, and not exactly built like tanks.

    For $200 or less, Hi-Point is probably the way to go. It's a cheap gun and one ugly SOB, but has a strong performance record relative to the cost.

    For the best results in a good value purchase, you want to get yourself into the $300-500 tier. Almost everything in that range is a solid gun, though I'd personally steer clear of Taurus. 9mm or 40sw probably offer the best bang for your budget when it comes to range/defense calibers.