Or a back pack to be specific, all day every day but they keep ripping and tearing and wearing out exceptionally fast, I guess you could call it a bug out bag but it's one that's always with me, to and fro, at work, even when I run an errand so I need something stronger, better and tougher but I'd like it to not be camo or obvious hunting/tacticool looking because I'd get stopped everyday. maybe plain grey or earthy or black would be a doable. Any suggestions? By the way, my daughters call it my "Man-Purse" so that's where that came from but hey man! it's not fair women get to carry all that stuff! my pockets are full of too much already! I need a purse...err I mean a bag too!