Hydrophobic coating?

Discussion in 'Cleaning and Maintenance' started by savageman97, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. savageman97

    savageman97 New Member

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    I just found this product they call ultra ever dry and I thiught it was pretty interesting. If u havent ever heard of it than its definately worth looking into! Bassically its a two part solution that u spray onto a surface and it creates a hydrophobic coating that will repel water and mud and bassically anything with water in it. Theres a youtube video of it and it seems to work incredibly. So my question is.... u could theoretically spray this stuff on ur huntin rifle and never shudder when u get caught in a rain storm? And rust should be a thing of the past?
     
  2. fa35jsf

    fa35jsf New Member

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    I have wondered the same thing but never had a gun that I would try it on. Send your request over to the guy who is doing the product testing. I'm sure he can help


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  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    It's only a matter of time before this is a factory option. But I assume it would be useless in the bore.
     
  4. ctshooter

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    Only draw back I see is it has to be reapplied if comes into contact with soaps or solvents. One of the informational videos on their site even says not to touch with bare hands to much, and avoid abrasion.

    The concept is awesome, just have to give them some time to make it so you can do simple things like handle it with bare hands.
     
  5. Hookeye

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    Oiling my guns is relaxing.
     
  6. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    Just the whole cleaning process, what ever I'm doing ( sometimes I unload ammo out of magazines and wipe down the Ammo before replacing it, as a means of inspection...) relaxes me,..with some "Quiet Music " in the Background. On my Bed, I Spread out 2 old Towels, and put 3 cleaning mats on top of that, then roll up a comfy chair, and get to it. Most of the older long Arms are in "Plastic/Vinyl" storage bags with separate dehumidifiers, the newer stuff comes out once a month or more for light cleaning and TLC, and the stuff we shoot regularly is cleaned 2x a month, plus before and after shooting as needed. The only thing I don't do while I'm doing that is drink ( other then water) and I quit Smoking cigars and pipes about 9 yrs ago....
    I'm still experimenting with my first DIY "Paint" jobs, in progress is the Mossberg 702(getting Two-Tone Light and Dk. Grey over Black with black specks,....except for the optic) and next I was going to do the Kel-Tec P3AT slide in Grey,... And then maybe if I have enough left out of the cans, one or two other guns' Parts...

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  7. tinbucket

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    Blacksmiths when making wrought iron and just ordinary things will quinch the hot metal in oil until it cools. It adsorbs the oil. that's one reason you may see old fittings on barn doors that are more black than anything like rust. I've used wax which is somewhat durable on an old .22. Others do too. I used Essox synthetic lube, on many of my firearms. I can't find it now. It gets more fluid when it gets warm from shooting etc. Rig +P and other ,lubes. Several of my firearms are parkerized. Nickel looks nice, but don't use Hoppes and some others solvents on it. there are many types of durable finishes out now....durable to a point. They will still scratch and rust and be worn off by holsters and other things. Only real way is for the base material to be rust resistant or rust proof, like some grades, of stainless. that is why most of the handguns, over the last, 20 years, I've acquired were stainless. when they come up with something that won't rub off on the edges and corners and normal wear, they will beat a path to their door.
     
  8. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    hmmmmmmm ?:D
     
  9. BillDeShivs

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    Metal will not "absorb" oil.
     
  10. tinbucket

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    Metal will definately adsorb oil even close grained forged metal. Cast iron will adsorb the most, that I know of. Aluminum will adsorb oil. Hot metal quneched in oil will draw in oil as it cools in it. How much in what type of metal I don't know. Talk to a blacksmith or someone that works with metal. Look at the bottom of iron skillets and other pans used to cook meats in and so on.
     
  11. BillDeShivs

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    I am "someone who works with metal." I'm a knifemaker, engraver, gunsmith, jeweler.
    Metals do not absorb oil. Oil will stick to a rough metal surface better than a smooth one, but it is no absorbed.
     
  12. John_Deer

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    Drenching hot metal in oil is a form of hardening the metal. If you dip hot metal in water it gets to hard and becomes brittle (the fate of the titanic). Hot metal burns the oil. Burnt oil forms carbon which does nothing to prevent rust or corrosion but it does form high carbon steel which makes a decent knife.
     
  13. BillDeShivs

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    Both of you guys are way out of your leagues.
    Burned oil has nothing to do with making high carbon steel.
    Please stop!
     
  14. therewolf

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    Actually, many metals are porous, and will "absorb" oil. The same as they

    will absorb moisture, if given the chance.

    I just got a stainless steel rifle some jackpipe sold, because he

    learned the hard way that SS does not mean rust-proof.

    You still have to give your firearm some TLC, now and then. I have

    also seen some of the toughest SS surfaces on the planet, Victorinox and

    Wenger stainless steel penknives, rust through due to neglect and

    harsh treatment.

    Maybe they will find some rust proof treatment some day, but for now,

    there still is no substitute for proper lubrication and storage of your

    firearms.
     
  15. BillDeShivs

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    Again, what happens on the surface of steel has nothing to do with the metal "absorbing" anything.
    By their very nature, metals aren't porous. Surface texture is something completely different than metal composition. A rough surface texture will hold oil (or water) better than a polished texture, but that has nothing to do with the metal absorbing anything.