does a pump shotgun (shooting 2/3 rifled slug) have more or less recoil than a 30-06
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In your opinion what caliber is the best for deer and elk? Consider price, how available ammo is, power, range, trajectory. I use a 30-06 Springfield. It puts a little hurt to the shoulder but I really like it.
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I've used a .44 carbine up to .300 win mag. Just bought a .270 for deer. 30-06 is a great round.
.308 works just fine for the largest of deer, plus less damage to meat. It still has a kick, but is not as much. There is another thread on .308 vs 30-06. Check it out. Look at replacing your rifle pad with a limb saver. Blackhawk sells whole stock replacement that lessens recoil by 85%. It will cost a little, but still way cheaper then a new gun.
Depends on where you are- Eastern Whitetail is much smaller than Western deer. Here, 7.63x39, 30-30, .243 all work well (as well as .44 Mag carbines.
Western US? 30-06, .270, 25-06, .308, 8mm etc. They will all do their job if you do yours. .300 Win Mag, 7mm Mag are used- IMHO, not really needed unless you are hunting bear size of a small truck.
Western US? 30-06, .270, 25-06, .308, 8mm etc. They will all do their job if you do yours. .300 Win Mag, 7mm Mag are used- IMHO, not really needed unless you are hunting bear size of a small truck.
You are there. If it's not broke don't fix it!!!!In your opinion what caliber is the best for deer and elk? Consider price, how available ammo is, power, range, trajectory. I use a 30-06 Springfield. It puts a little hurt to the shoulder but I really like it.
A 30-06 is as good a choice as any in North America,,, I am partial to my custom 98 Mauser in 7mm Remington magnum. It shoots very well for me and I have taken deer, elk, hogs, and bison with the rifle using mainly 160 grain Nosler Partitions. Any rifle with good power that one can shoot accurately, with the proper bullet and load, to me is the best rifle you can use for 95% of the varmints here. If it's a .308, 30-06, 7mm,30-30, 35 Rem.
or whatever, if you keep it within it's range and put the bullet where it needs to be, chances are you will be working up meat by nightfall.
or whatever, if you keep it within it's range and put the bullet where it needs to be, chances are you will be working up meat by nightfall.
Depends on the gauge. A 12 definitely. A 20 probably a little less.bowhunter17 said:does a pump shotgun (shooting 2/3 rifled slug) have more or less recoil than a 30-06
i use a 12 guage slug or 30-30 or a .223 depending what state huntin
Check out the B&C stats, it may suprise you.Depends on where you are- Eastern Whitetail is much smaller than Western deer. Here, 7.63x39, 30-30, .243 all work well (as well as .44 Mag carbines.
Western US? 30-06, .270, 25-06, .308, 8mm etc. They will all do their job if you do yours. .300 Win Mag, 7mm Mag are used- IMHO, not really needed unless you are hunting bear size of a small truck.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/news/featured_story.asp?area=news&ID=125
I've tracked more Whitetail for folks that used a .243 then any other caliber. It is not the hammer of Thor, but more of a surgical penetration. People don't get it. The biggest issue w/ a .44 mag carbine is many people think because they can see the target in their scope, they will harvest a whitetail. Problem is reality just does not work the same. My .44-40 is a great deer rifle inside 100 yards, as is the .44 mag. Most hunters here still use the .308, .30-06 or .270.
I like different calibers myself. I don't believe in being under gunned. I like 6.5x55, 8x57, 9.3x57, 7.5x55. There are few places here in NH that you would get the chance at a 300..400 yard shot. But, if I'm hunting those areas I will bring an appropriate caliber/rifle/scope, That has been a 7mm Remington mag before. That rifle has taken more whitetail then any other I own. The Weight of that rifle is also a factor as I don't still hunt. Like yazul, I'm a huge Mauser fan.
.270 win. Very fast and flat shooting. Good grain variety. Hits hard ammo is very easy to find.
X2 I call my .270 Dr. Death.270 win. Very fast and flat shooting. Good grain variety. Hits hard ammo is very easy to find.
I'm going to say a lot also depends on your hunting style . I do a lot of still hunting in the adirondacks and will not go out without my Remington 7600 in 30 06. . My old man stand hunts a lot and uses his .270 and a .243 before that. All have worked well for our own particular needs and styles. Just depends on who what when where why and how
Bud, You want to sell the .270, remember??? Just too loud!.270 win. Very fast and flat shooting. Good grain variety. Hits hard ammo is very easy to find.
The 760/7600 is very popular in the North east. .30-06, .270 it is all good.I'm going to say a lot also depends on your hunting style . I do a lot of still hunting in the adirondacks and will not go out without my Remington 7600 in 30 06. . My old man stand hunts a lot and uses his .270 and a .243 before that. All have worked well for our own particular needs and styles. Just depends on who what when where why and how
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variety?
"Good grain variety." I assume you mean different bullet weights. I had to smile. I've never heard it put that way before.
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.270 win. Very fast and flat shooting. Good grain variety. Hits hard ammo is very easy to find.
"Good grain variety." I assume you mean different bullet weights. I had to smile. I've never heard it put that way before.
ct
I have both 270 and 30-06, I consider the 270 to be better suited to deer while the 30-06 with it's 180gr bullets is the clear choice for larger game. That said I prefer either my 7mm-08, 308, or 6.5x55 for deer they are lighter, quicker handling, less recoil and kill them just as dead as the 270. If you are worried about recoil the 6.5x55 or it's ballistic twins (260 and 6.5 Creedmore) are remarkably light kicking rifles and are highly effective on game, I can handle some pretty hefty kicking magnums with no issue but still prefer to hunt with my little sissy kicker, I like watching them drop through the scope.
It is loud!!!!Bud, You want to sell the .270, remember??? Just too loud!
The 760/7600 is very popular in the North east. .30-06, .270 it is all good.
If I give my honest opinion which would be a 243 or 25-06 a lot of people would disagree. Next I would choose the 270!Bud, You want to sell the .270, remember??? Just too loud!
The 760/7600 is very popular in the North east. .30-06, .270 it is all good.
In my house we hunt with 8x57, 308 and 30-06. All of them are great on deer and elk. I will sometimes use a 7mag when I think I am going to reach out past 500 yards. I think sometimes and I know I have been guilty of it we look for a better rifle or caliber to make up for our lack of marksmanship. I have seen 2 years in a row my uncle drop elk at 400 yards plus with a 243 one shot...Could I do it no but he has spent 25 years shooting nothing but that rifle...
If you really don't like loud cartridges forget the high pitched crack of a 243 get a 6.5x55, it is the lowest noise cartridge north of a pistol cartridge carbine that can cleanly take all CXP2 class game at respectable range. Lower pressure driving heavy for caliber bullets at reasonable speed out of a relativity small bore is about the best thing going other then a silencer and sub sonic rounds, it is the only high powered rifle I own that does not ring my ears to shoot without plugs in. In terms of power/recoil it is about like a 30-30 with factory ammo only with vastly better external ballistics and twice the effective range, and despite what you would think ammo is not at all expensive either if you know where to look.
My full power handloads are another story though, I am running hot on the heels of a 264 Win Mag with hefty loads of RL22 in my modern action.
My full power handloads are another story though, I am running hot on the heels of a 264 Win Mag with hefty loads of RL22 in my modern action.
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