howa 1500 question!

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by djchoma, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. djchoma

    djchoma New Member

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    hello. new to the forum. i have 2 howa axiom rifles right now.

    1. .243 heavy barre bluedl, with a mark optics 10-40 magnification 50 mm objective lens and illuminated mildot reticle. 13-25 harris bipod and handloaded 62 grain barns varmit grenades at 3600fps. weighs 14lbs.

    2. 300 win mag. light barrel blued.

    my .243 has been amazingly accurace to 300 yards. never tried to stretch it any further as it is just my coyote gun.

    my 300 on the otherhand i want to shoot long range, 700+ if needed.

    my friend and i have been discussing wether or not the howa is worthy of the money im willing to spend on it. i already have all the toys picked out, just need to know wether i should go ahead with my build or not.

    he shoots a tika t3 lite 300 rum, and is a huge fan of the t3. has never shot a howa.

    my setup, for whatever rifle will be the following.


    blue diamond huskemaw 5-20 scope, ranged and custom turreted to 800+yards.

    harris 9-13 swivel bipod with pod lock.

    caldwell wind meter,

    muzzle break,

    leupod rx-1000 tbr,

    (if howa a timney trigger set to 1 and 1/2 lb pull)

    scope coat and sun shade for the scope.

    let me know if the howa will do or if i should sell and look for another route.

    p.s. for those who dont know the axiom stock is an adjustable length pull with a pistol grip and built in recoil supression and completely free floated barrel.

    both my howas are blacked out.

    thnaks in advance... let me know if im doin the right thing or if i should change something... or everything.
     
  2. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Howa is a good rifle, as is the Tikka.

    But, for the money, a Savage bull bbl is the way to go.
     

  3. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    But it is a hunter!
    I have both Savage and Howa.
    My Savage 110 7mm Rem Mag is great for 500 yards. It get dicey after that as would any caliber and a cold bore 1st shot. It has a really thin barrel and is a sierra lite.
    On game, 500 yards is actually past where I would shoot from these days. 400 yards would be a very long shot.

    The Howa w/ its' heavy barrel can reach out and punch targets at 700 yards without problems. I put a lower powered scope on it to make it more Hunter friendly. It wears a 3-12x42mmAO now. I fell in love w/ this rifle the 1st time I shot it. 1 ragged hole at 100 yards. I can't find ammo or a load it does not shoot well.

    If you are looking to punch paper w/ the howa, get a heavy barrel. For a hunter you are good to go.
     
  4. theropinfool

    theropinfool New Member

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    Have a Howa 300 win mag. Love it. Working up a long range system with it right now.
     
  5. theropinfool

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    It just occurred to me that if my buddy told me he was basing his decision on what some random guy on the Internet said he liked, I'd call him a stupid ass. He's a little more on why I went with a Howa. I went with a Howa 300 win mag for my long range set up. Because you said huskamaw scope, I'm guessing your familiar with the best of the west, and Berger bullets. The Howa 300 win mag is a full length magnum action, like a 300 weatherby mag, not a shorter 30-06 length, and will allow you to seat your bullets out longer. The tikka has a standard 30-06 length action. The Howa has a flat bottom reciever, the tikka (my wife has a tikka .243) does to, but there isn't near the bedding surface of the Howa. Howa make the weatherby vanguard line, good enough for weatherby, good enough for this cowboy.
     
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  6. djchoma

    djchoma New Member

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    should i be spending the money on a muzzle break to reduce barrel jump and better re aquisition....??? its only 250$ and is removeable.. my .243 howa is deadly accurate.... but theres not enough pop from the hand loads to kick it. my 110 pound girl friend shoots gophers at 200 yards with it. and says it is like shooting a 22.lr but i know the 300 win mag is gonna kick lots more, even with the recoil reduction system, any suggestions on muzzle break make? or venting? up ? sides? a picture of ones suggested if suggested would be a plus.. thanks guys.
     
  7. fireguy

    fireguy New Member

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    I have a Howa Axion .308 heavy barrel. It shoots verrry well. You should have an adjustable trigger in you rifle. Mine is set pretty light and that helps make small groups. With your .300 having a light barrel, it isn't the optimal gun for long range, although it is capable of it. I wouldn't mess with a muzzle break unless you have a terrible time controlling the rifle after you shoot. A muzzle break will increase the noise coming back to you quite a bit. A good bipod and a good scope are all worth the money. I'm using a Nikko Stirling on mine and think it does a great job. Good luck.
     
  8. theropinfool

    theropinfool New Member

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    That 300 will kick like a mule, everything has to be so light these days. I had a brake put on mine, but a local guy built and installed it. It did tame it down to about a 25-06 level. Ya they're noisy, but if your shooting long range, your not going for multiple shots unless you screwed the pooch, so I don't see the noise being an issue either way.
     
  9. The_Kid

    The_Kid New Member

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    I shoot my Howa 1500, 30-06 at 600 yards now, and it is stock except for the rings and mounts. Go for it!
     
  10. alxltd1

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    This may be an old school answer, but then I am old. I have several Howa’s and they all shoot extremely well at distance. Having said that, they are also all not “out of the box” Howa’s. All have been re-barreled with match grade heavy barrels, actions tuned, triggers replaced, stocks replaced and properly pillar bedded (except for one in 300 Rem SAUM in an Axiom stock with CDI’s magazine feed conversion) and with scopes properly mounted and trued. My point being that the Howa action makes an excellent base for a long range rifle, but is also adequate as it comes from the factory though the light barrel may be less than optimum for 700 yds plus. The fun comes in making it the best that it can be, and that means going beyond the “bolt on” items. Then there is the load development to get the most accuracy. I know that this route can be very expensive and requires knowledgeable gunsmiths, which are becoming unfortunately harder and harder to find, but well worth the time and money for the ultimate in a long range rifle. Just my opinion and worth all of two cents.
     
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  11. natman

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    Note that the only item on your list that is Howa specific is the trigger and threading the barrel for the brake. So I'd say go with it on the Howa. If it doesn't measure up, you can transfer every other item to your next rifle, whatever it may be.

    That said, if you are planning to shoot at game at long range you should be able to put every shot on a paper plate, from actual hunting positions in actual hunting conditions. Find out how far away you can do that every time. Chances are it'll be less than 700 yards.

    Oh, and never shoot a rifle with a brake without hearing protection for all concerned.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2012
  12. djchoma

    djchoma New Member

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    went ahead and ordered everything today and dropped the gun off... be a month or so before they start working on it. should take them long. got 5-20 huskemaw blue diamond, leupold mark 4 rings, lapped and loktite. timney trigger to 2 lbs, they wont go any lighter even though i wanted it... oh well.... 8 ounces of pull isnt much. muzzle break with side and top venting. with the 300 on the axiom stock the kick is changed from back to up. makes the cheek god awful sore after a few shots... this will tame it down. just wondering what kind of projectile i should be throwing down range? looking for a 180 grain i think... any ideas and why? and no i do not intend on handloading for this rifle. once it is set up and i put a box of rounds through it i plan on shooting it only a few times a year. hopefully 3 to ensure accuracy and 1 more to put something down. was looking into the winchester supreme 180, nickle coated casing(silver) black projjectile with grey poly point. i dunno... got a while to read up but any info would be nice. thanks guys. oh and its for mule deer at around 4 - 500 yards. thanks!
     
  13. theropinfool

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    I'd look into the Hornady Superformance ammo. 180 gr SST bullets going 3130 fps. Nothing else comes close, man have I tried though.

    I don't know about your 4 shots a year, if it works for you, great. I need more practice than that. :)

    I've got to were I can hit at 600 yards consistently, wind still screws with me though. A lot goes into long shots.
     
  14. The_Kid

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    I would think a 180gr would work well. Since you aren't reloading, choose the hunting ammo that is most accurate in the rifle.