How to obtain an FFL 03

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by ArmyGuy, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. ArmyGuy

    ArmyGuy New Member

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    It has been suggested to me that I try and obtain an FFL 03/C&R license. What are the benifits of getting this license? Also, I am still in the military and move every couple of years. Would this affect the license or my ability to get one?

    If I did decide to get one, where or how do I start the process?
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The 03 FFL is a COLLECTOR'S FFL. It permits you to buy firearms that are classed as Curio or Relic Firearms, and have them shipped directly to you. It also permits you to buy C&R Firearms in any state, and, when doing a face to face buy, paperwork consists of signing a copy of your license, and handing it to seller.

    Many wholesalers and supply companies (like Brownells and Numrich) give a discount to 03 holders.

    Does nothing for you on new guns. C&Rs are 50 years old or older, OR are on a list published by BATFE.

    If you live on post, will need commander's OK. Off post, you send cc of your application to local chief law enforcement officer. When you PCS, you will need to notify ATF of address change.

    On New Years Eve, member here sent me email- heads up on a collectible Mossberg 22, located at shop in Maine. I'm in VA. Called shop New Year's day- yep they had, yep, good shape, yep, good price, yep, they ship- if I have an FFL for them to ship TO. Told them I was FFL holder, gave them credit card, emailed them copy of my license, 3 days later. mailman brought me my rifle.

    Most fun an old man can have for 30 bucks for a 3 yr license.

    PS- see you are in CA. You cannot recieve a C&R handgun directly, but C&R rifles and shotguns, yes.
     

  3. ArmyGuy

    ArmyGuy New Member

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    That sounds good, since I am interested in older WWII rifles. I do live off post, and hopefully I won't be in CA for more than 2-3 years (I just PCS'd here).

    Is it relatively easy to get an 03 FFL? Would I just go to the ATF website and get some forms to fill out and mail them in, or is it more involved than that?
     
  4. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    That and a check for $30 will do it.
     
  5. ArmyGuy

    ArmyGuy New Member

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    Thanks for the advice, just ordered the forms from the ATF distribution center.
     
  6. towboater

    towboater Active Member

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    I filled out the forms on my computer, and them printed and sent them in.
     
  7. pmanton

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    Do you need the chief LEO's signature on the form, or do you simply CC him?

    Paul
    Salome, AZ
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    An 03 FFL does not require APPROVAL by your local CLEO, it does require that a copy of the application be sent to him.

    I usually put a cover letter on the app when renewing- to the effect of-

    "Dear Shurf (Southern pronunciation there)

    I am renewing my Federal Firearms License. Regulations of the BATFE require that I notify your office of this by copy of my application form. No action is required by your office."

    Maybe add a PS- "expect I'll see you at the turkey shoot Saturday night. Regards- C3
     
  9. sigp250

    sigp250 New Member

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    For the sake of clarification, an 03 allows you the privilege of buying, selling or trading among other 03 C&R's. An 03 C&R license is not a Dealer license.
    You may not engage in the Business of dealing in any firearms, including curios or relics. [18 U.S.C. 922(a) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]
     
  10. pagj17

    pagj17 New Member

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    Btw, if you go td to another state you can buy a hg there and then send 19 dollars to the state of California to register it. You also still have to submit to the 10 day waiting period if you buy a long arm from a dealer in California (private party and 03 transactions are exempt from the dealer record of sale if it's a c&r in Ca)
     
  11. sigp250

    sigp250 New Member

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    It is certainly possible to buy a gun in most other states and have it transfered to CA. I say most states. In NJ you are not allowed to even handle a gun in a shop if you don't have an NJ permit. The same is true in IL if you don't have a FOID card. Only permanent residents can posses an NJ permit or an IL FOID.

    It is however very easy to purchase either a hand gun or long gun via the Internet. Except states that have laws that permit one to purchase a firearm from an adjoining or contiguous state, all out of state firearm purchases must be transfered to an FFL in your state of residency.

    We ship hand guns to CA every day provided they are not on any restrictions list. CA is really no different than shipping to NY, MA, HI, IL and other States or cities with restrictions.