how old is old enough?

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by shadyshooter, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. shadyshooter

    shadyshooter New Member

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    Does anyone have an opinion regarding ages that should be able to shoot with safety?
    while at my local club my two youngest boys who are capable of complete gun safety were shooting and they were stopped as i was videoing them!
    this club member (i would like to say stronger words but best not) basically said my kids could not handle guns safely and i was not focused on there shooting!
    i was 3 feet behind them shooting a video on my phone to show my family, i am proud of my boys and they can shoot better than most people i know.
    my youngest is 7yrs old and can strip, clean and rebuild the AR they both understand safety and love shooting so i wont be letting some ******* tell me they are not safe! and too young to shoot this sport needs young blood to survive and grow i don't think they are to young do you?
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwjypU4GmAI&list=UU6hzTu3byROU9IUhtX_QuIQ&index=1&feature=plcp[/ame]
     
  2. fmj

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    Completely depends on the maturity level of the child.

    My youngest was handling his crickett just fine by himself @ 7....altho i WAS right behind him...within arms reach of the gun.

    I have known 40+ year olds with less maturity and firearms safety common sense than my boys @8!!

    Two suggestions from a dad to a dad, if i may.

    1) reaffirm (get mean dad) about the finger on the trigger thing...saw a few lapses there. (personal pet peeve of mine and i jump my students asses every time i see it)

    2) Get some safety glasses on them lads!!

    Other than those two minor things, what i saw was two young men having a blast and nothing to get ones panties in a wad over. As i have stated before, i have seen MUCH worse outa 40 somethings.
     
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  3. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    They looked pretty damn safe to me and some nice marksmanship to boot.
     
  4. shadyshooter

    shadyshooter New Member

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    FMJ
    thanks for the points the glasses is a bug bear of mine they hate them but good point
     
  5. shadyshooter

    shadyshooter New Member

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    silverado113
    thanks man my kids were not happy they could not carry on shooting!!
     
  6. priell3

    priell3 New Member

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    I started shooting at 5 years old and now I'm 51. I tought my son when he was 5 and now he is 17. Teach them early and keep driving home safety.
     
  7. shadyshooter

    shadyshooter New Member

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    Prie113
    thanks for the support it means a great deal
     
  8. Ranger-6

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    When I was 1-year old I got a wood carved gun.
    When I was 2-years old I got a squirt gun.
    When I was 3-years old I got a cap gun.
    when I was 4-years old I got a starter pistol.
    When I was 5-years old I got a dart gun.
    When I was 6-year old I got a BB gun.
    When I was 7-years old I got a pellet gun.
    When I was 8-years old I got a .22.
    When I was 9 years old I got a .410 shotgun.
    When I was 10-years old I got a 30-30 rifle.

    I was a killing machine from birth.......
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    I was at the range yesterday, shooting next bench down from a gent with his daughter, age 6. Yep, pink cricket. Young lady was doing fine.

    Most days, one of my granddaughters (the Anarchist-in-training) is shooting with me. She has been my shooting buddy for 6 years now, and is the young lady with the target rifle on the 100 yd line.

    No one set age- when they are old enough to pay attention, follow instructions precisely, and understand what they are doing. People of ANY age vilating range rules or safety procedures are another matter.

    Fellow took exception to the A-I-C shooting one day. She politely advised him that SHE was a member of the range association, and SHE was not the one handling a firearm while the range was cold. :p (He was the one)
     
  10. shadyshooter

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    Ranger
    love the theme there what happens at 50?
     
  11. shadyshooter

    shadyshooter New Member

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    c3 i love the fact you take the granddaughters to the range. my oldest is 18 and one day i will hopefully do the same.
     
  12. fmj

    fmj Active Member

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    Simple enuff to cure. Te;ll if they want to shoot, they'll have proper safety equipment and follow the safety rules to a T...or they will WATCH from the truck! (least thats what worked on my kids..every kid, every parent and every situation varies.)

    I CANNOT wait for G-babies and getting them started hunting, fishing and shooting. Wish that eldest (22 soon) would hurry up with his RN school and make me one!!!
     
  13. TheOldMan

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    Shady... Following along with all that the folks have said here, I saw nothing wrong with you sharing some quality time with your boys at the club. I'd have taken acception to the "fella" who came along to spoil your sons time and would have carried on. Some folks are just that way. Both of my children have their own .22's and have had them since they were double digit age. Could have gotten my daughter a little earlier but .... Oh well:)
     
  14. jjfuller1

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    seems fine. i would say probly the person that commented was annoyed with how rapidly they were shooting? or trigger finger control. perhaps he had good intentions but a lack of comunication skill. anyways. i wouldnt have said anything.. keep em shooting
     
  15. Bear304inc

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    I have a 10yo son who's been going to the range with me since he was 5, even though he just had a pellet gun then, he has been raised around guns and got his. 22 last christmas. Started impressing gun safety since his first nerf gun as a toddler, now he knows safety front to back and can honestly say id rather have him beside me at the range than most of the " grown-ups" I see doing ignorant things constantly. Sure he has plenty to learn but basic firearms safety, maintenance is down pat. Imo we all need to keep learning, in one aspect or another, to better ourselves as stuarts of the sport. I've yet to meet anyone who knows all, about firearms( although canebrake and c3 come dam close) So in point, I say keep up the good work, you know your childs abilities / level of responsibility more than anyone. If you feel that your boys are ready, then have at it, not many dads anymore willing to spend quality time w their children these days, imo shooting is a great way to do that. Teach em young, teach em correctly and you'll have the best shooting buddy there is hands down....
     
  16. Jeepergeo

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    I'm gonna disagree here. The adult "supervising" these boys does not seem to be ready for that responsibility.

    I don't see an adult in the video supervising the kids. If the supervising adult is the cameraman, then the adult is not paying enough attention to the kids. A supervising adult would not have allowed the safety lapses noted by FMJ.

    It was good to see an adult visually check the actions before the kids went down range to retrieve targets.
     
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  17. Buckethead47

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    Another thing may be running. But I would also have to agree with the camera thing. At that age you need to be spot on with your advising. Adding a camera in your hands is a distraction to you. Bring a tripod next time. Also with both shooting it's hard to watch both at the same time. Have them take turns shooting. Like every magazine they switch who shoots. That way each guy has your full attention. But I don't think I saw anything from that clip that was worthy of getting kicked out of the range. They handled those guns pretty well and I wouldn't mind shooting mex to them.
     
  18. Jeepergeo

    Jeepergeo New Member

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    Buckethead47...well stated.
     
  19. TheOldMan

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    Afraid I must disagree (more so with Jeeper than Buckethead) ... Did you fellas NOT see how those boys were handling their weapons? Both of them seemed to know exactly what to do and how to load and unload them. I saw nothing wrong in how this was done. Just a proud father showing off his son's abilities at the range. They stayed safe the entire time... IN FACT, they waited for the all clear before even venturing down to retrieve their targets and replace them with fresh targets which I was also very impressed with. In fact the youngest one seemed very happy with the whole thing by skipping down towards the target.

    My opinion the fella was wrong in what he did and ruined the boys day by being an ***hat!

    Buck, I'm glad what you stated at the end though.. They handled their weapons well and I'd also not have an issue shooting next to them..
     
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  20. Buckethead47

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    The only reason I said running is for the hazard of slipping I've only been to an indoor range once and saw that sometimes the lead bounced out of the trap. More prone to slipping on a piece while running. The only major safety rule I saw was no glasses. It was brought up before so I didn't say anything. It is possible that could have been the reason of getting kicked out. At my range the strict rules are un case your gun at the line muzzle pointing down range. Don't touch any firearms during a cease fire. any firearm behind the line must be cased. Don't point a gun any other direction but down range. And mandatory eye and ear protection. all of those are under a 1 warning then banned for the day. Each range has different rules but I'm sure those are on that list. Like I said they handled those guns well. Don't let this I've time keep you from thinking they are too young to shoot.