How often is a CCW used against it's owner?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by texaswoodworker, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Tried searching for this, but couldn't find much.

    How often is a gun forcibly taken from a CCL holder, and used against them? I guessing rarely, but would like to see some actual numbers.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i am sure it has happened from time to time, but honestly, i can't remember ever hearing about a case like that. sorry, i know, i'm not much help here!:eek:
     

  3. shouldazagged

    shouldazagged New Member

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    That's one of a number of reasons I carry a J-frame EDC. It's much harder to take away if it's in my hand--the barrel is short, and the leverage is mine. But I don't know where you'd find figures on how often it happens.
     
  4. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I am sure that number would be directly tied to how often the CCW person trains with their weapon. For some of us that would be almost an imposibility. For others they are simply lucky that it hasn't happend yet.
     
  5. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Is it all about training? We have no idea how many people are armed each day? How many times does a civilian use his firearm to stop a crime without firing? We just do not know?
    Police however are trained and retrained. Each time an officer is involved with the use of a firearm it is recorded. So we know that 511 officers well trained were killed with their own weapons from 2000-2010.
     
  6. towboater

    towboater Active Member

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    Thats quite a few. Maybe they would be safer without em. jk
     
  7. towboater

    towboater Active Member

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    But the bad guy knew the police had a gun. Thats why I prefer Concealed Carry .
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I always hear it will happen, must happen, lucky it hadn't happened yet. Yet no one, and I mean absolutely NO ONE has ever been able to provide the answer for me, to the very same question you've asked.

    I have heard stories (legit, from newspapers) of robberies resulting in a stored gun being taken, FROM IT'S STORAGE PLACE, i.e. closet, behind the door, etc. etc., and used against their owners, but NEVER have heard of one being snatched from the hands of the owner or from a holster of someone legally open carrying.

    That's more a gun storage issue rather than an oc vs cc issue.
     
  9. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    That pretty much the response I expected. Just wanted to make sure. It's interesting that there is almost so data or really anything else on this. I can't really recall ever hearing about something like this happening. Like trip said, you'll hear about stored guns being used, but never concealed guns.
     
  10. BeyondTheBox

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    Found this a while ago, statistic from FBI.

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    Incase you can't read it, it says only 1% of handguns used in self defense are taken by the criminal from the defender... or something like that.
     
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  11. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Sounds like a very negligible number to me. I would suspect the instances are probably outnumbered by NDs.
     
  12. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Much agreed
     
  13. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    The only way my carry piece will ever be used against me is as a hammer, causr itll be empty :)
     
  14. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    believe me, if it is happening, the news media would be reporting it like crazy in an anti-gun kinda way!
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    the percentage of that happening is probably around the same percentage as joe biden not lying in front of a camera
     
  16. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am not sure about firearms being used against their owners i am sure it happens. But their are cases that the firearm was used to accidentally kill family members.
     
  17. lfcshooter

    lfcshooter New Member

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    ^^Manta what are you up to?
     
  18. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You have lost me. They are talking about owners firearms being used against the owner i am pointing other negative things that can happen. So if you decide to carry a firearm there are things to consider. It could be taken of you and used against you other negative possibilities. PS I am not saying people should not carry firearms that's their decision there are plenty carrying them here.
     
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  19. lfcshooter

    lfcshooter New Member

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    Hmm thought for a minute there you were baiting
     
  20. Dearhunter

    Dearhunter Supporting Member Supporter

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    I go with towboater on this one. That is why I do not like open carry.

    I keep mine concealed. Nobody will know I have a gun until I have to use it.