How many of you would buy a BRAND NEW Mauser Kar 98k

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Mark_Van_Goth, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    No, I didn't write it wrong.And I'm not talking about the Mauser M98.
    Just imagine the following scenario:
    Mauser just decided to start again the production of the leggendary rifle:The Kar 98k.
    Let's say (for example) that the new rifle is available in two modes:

    A)98k Classic:Almost the exact copy of the original design (1935).Barrel and trigger mechanism would be upgraded.

    B)98k M:A moderized version of the leggendary rifle.
    The upgrades would be the following
    -Polymer forniture
    -Capable of accepting detachable magazines
    -Integrated scope mounts
    -Bipod present by default
    -Recoil absorbing recoil pad(on the buttstock)
    -Upgraded and configurable trigger mechanism(Actually, it already exists)
    -Upgraded barrel
    -If iron sights are preferred:Similar design to the original one, but upgraded(Materials and)
    Chambering/ammo:8mm Mauser, 7,62x51 NATO + Lapua Magnum Variants
    Other:I'm sure that I forgot something

    Would you buy it?If yes,What price would be acceptable for you?
     
  2. duddie10

    duddie10 New Member

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    Where do i order one. I love my k98k. Sign me up!!!
     

  3. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Winchester model 70 was pretty much a updated 98.

    Good design is good design. If they were made at a competativeive price point with Remington, Tikka, Savage, FN etc. they would sell.
     
  4. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    I don't believe Mauser still exists as a company. But as a hypothetical scenario yes I would be interested.
     
  5. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    No, because I have one. A post war, brand new, unfired commercial Mauser K-98. Imagine the finest K-98 being taken off the assembly line and handed to you, still warm.
     
  6. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No a new Mauser '98 would not appeal to me. As a sporting or defensive rifle it is long obsolete. The war-vet Mausers have the history to support their value, other than that, they would be nearly valueless to me. Mitchell's has been doing what you suggest for years, you can still buy a "new" Mauser from them, but don't try to sell it as a collectible later.

    Mosin-Nagant collectors are seeing something similar to what you suggest with the MOLOT imports that are now flooding into the country. The serious collectors turn their heads and spit when the name is mentioned. The uninformed are snapping them up like there is no tomorrow, but they will be disappointed in the long run.
     
  7. Wambli

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    The German gun maker Mauser is alive and doing very well and still making the worlds finest high end sporting rifles. I own a magnum length square bridge Mauser 98 in .375 H&H. To get a new production Magnum 98 is about a one year wait and the price tag is in the 5 figures and grows FAST depending on options so I don't think they have the time or desire to start making military rifles anymore.

    Here you can download their 2012 brochure, Worth to look at you will see some absolutely magnificent rifles:
    http://www.mauserusa.net/fileadmin/Editor/downloads/Broschueren/Englisch/Mauser_M03_M98_Cat_07_en.pdf

    Here are a few pictures of my gun. The pictures do not do the rifle justice. The workmanship and engraving are flawless:
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    Quality commercial Mauser 98 style actions can be had from other European manufacturers like Zastava and CZ.
     
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  8. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    Ok...I hate you because of this rifle:p i'M Planning to get one as soon as possible!!!
     
  9. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

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    The problem with the older rifles like the K98 is the cost. As pointed out you can buy a new Mauser or Winchester Model 70 classic, but you will pay for it. Those old rifles are famous for their quality, but that quality requires that more skilled people spend more time making the rifle. That in turn requires that the companies making those rifles charge more.

    Americans decided to go with quantity over quality a long time ago, and that applies to guns as well. Of course that isn't all bad. A lot of people that would have never been able to afford a good rifle way back when can afford a rifle today because they are cheaper to manufacture. And the new rifles do work, but all you have to do is pick up one of those older rifles to realize our standard guns now aren't even in the same category as far as quality goes. :)
     
  10. Donn

    Donn Active Member

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    A guy picked one up at the LGS a week or so ago. It was a thing of beauty.
     
  11. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    I partially agree with you

    Well...I understand what you mean, but I agree only partially.
    1)The rifle action/mechanism is obsolete.FALSE!:
    I personally own a Mauser K98, made in 1943 in Obendorf-original chambering, 8mm Mauser.I've hit 5 times a 40x40 dong at 1100 yards(Obviously, I used modern optics).And I'm not the best shooter in the world.Sure, it the 98 design can be still improved, but it can be still compare to the most modern designs.It is has the perfect design, suitable to all-from the experienced shooter to the beginner
    2)Not for defensive and sporting shooting
    In facts, Mauser rifles are built to last.For sporting, hunting, long-range target shooting they're extremerly reliable, simple and accurate.Unfortunately, I have to admit the the rifle is not good for defensive pourposes.
    3)Mitchell's mausers:The ****ty ones
    I hate Mitchell's Mausers company.I don't like what they're doing at all and I would never buy a single rifle from them.
     
  12. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Sure it does it`s SIG................SIG Sauer GmbH
     
  13. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    You're not alone

    I'm the proud owner of a Mauser k98, manufactured in 1943 in Obendorf.I know what you're talking about.;)
    But....even if my kar 98k is one of my favorites, I prefer not to shoot it often because of its historical value.So I need a replacement.:)
     
  14. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    ....completely agree with you....

    This is the truth.Especially for the Mauser, the 98 series.
    The new actions/rifle can be faster, cheaper to produce, easier to produce.But not better.Not so reliable.Not so prooven.Not so "universaly suitable".Not so intuitive.Not so idiot-proof.

    I've met and talked to many veterans(several generations of soldiers), paying particultar attention to what snipers and markman have to say.Some said "I don't love it, but I damn respect it"; some other said "Only a Mauser can be compared to another Mauser - no other rifle can be compared to it"..."When I was in Vietnam, I didn't know that my model 70 was in fact a Mauser derivative....Now I know why the hell it was so well-made" etc
     
  15. Wambli

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    It was my 49th Birthday gift from my wife. Needless to say I'll never get rid of either the gun or the wife. It is a wonderful, functional work of art and needless to say it gets everyone's attention at the range. When it arrived at the GM I used for the FFL just about the whole store came over to the gun counter to see it. :D
     
  16. Wambli

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    I Agree on all points. OBSoLETE!!!!???? The Mauser 98 Action is so good that we are still making rifles on variations of it. Besides Mauser, the pre-64 AND the new Classic Winchesters, Kimbers, Montana Rifles, the Ruger 77, CZ's, Zastavas and others are just copies or slight variations of the same action Mauser invented well over 100 years ago.

    Not for defensive and sporting purposes?!? Why don't we ask that question to the PHs in Africa that STILL almost unanimously use Mausers and CZ's agains the most dangerous game animals in the world! Saying the Mauser is outdated is like saying the 1911 is an old design that has outlived it's purpose.
     
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  17. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    Ok...stop it...:p

    I don't know whay but I have the impression that your rifle is going to be stolen...I don't know WHEN it will happen, WHERE it will happen or WHO will do it...but I'm pretty sure this is exactly what is going to happen...
    BTW:Would you be so kind to tell me exactly WHEN you'll be not at home, WHERE do you live and HOW may I get into you house???...I mean, hypotetically...XD
     
  18. Wambli

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    Did I mention the alarm system and protection trained German Shepherd that stay at home when I walk out? The first one MIGHT be defeated, the second one has NO sense of humor when disturbed... :D
     
  19. Mark_Van_Goth

    Mark_Van_Goth New Member

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    ....i would still not give up...I mean...hypothetically

    No, you didn't- and it wasn't nice from you at all.Anyway...let's focus on the time you're out.Why doesn't your dog come with you?The dog is not only a pet, it is a very important family member and must be not left alone.You should spend more time with your dog.The next time you go out, you should bring your dog with you.And...you know what?You don't even need to engage/turn on the alarm system:As a good man, I can keep an eye on your stuff.
    Btw:Where do you keep you rifle?I HAVE TO KNOW IT....HM...FOR SECURITY PURPOSES XD
     
  20. Wambli

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    Sorry he likes staying home. He's just not that sociable...