how many of y'all

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by trip286, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Have actually made dry runs in clearing your homes?

    Anyone actually lay down in bed naked, and then run through a full scenario of a home intruder, or a suspected home intruder with unidentified specific location (such as, "maybe he hiding in the closet"?)

    I seriously want to know. For real.

    Who has grabbed their gun, or a blue gun, actually considered their "ready time", ammo capabilities, and practiced slicinng the pie at every door, and checked to see where they were most vulnerable, and considered the most likely hidey holes for a BG in their homes.

    Don't be shy now, come on, let's hear it.
     
  2. thatonespot

    thatonespot New Member

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    I swear to God i literally just did this. Got a derringer under the pillow and an 870 right next to it (big pillows). I reached both in seconds, but moving around mostly naked with a gun in my briefs was difficult. I should actually practice all the mechanics.
     

  3. Vikingdad

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  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    yeah, you should.

    I didn't start this thread to make fun of anyone. I made a dry run through my house myself. I just see members occasionally saying "well doing this will result in this..." and I think, "how the hell do you know?"

    My home is tricky in a way. I'm in a trailer. My room is on one end, my son's is on the other. A .22 will punch through any surface in this place like paper. I don't even have a .22, only bigger stuff, increasing the risk of over penetration in my house. Any one who breaks in, will likely do so from the middle of the house, at one of the doors or living room windows, which would leave me with a firing lane pretty much straight along a tunnel into my son's bedroom. Bad, bad, very bad juju.

    And so I've actually practiced the situation myself to identify where I think would be the most likely point of entry (the door facing away from the road), the best place to maintain some modicum of concealment, and the best angle to avoid collateral injury.

    I also accounted for the fact I sleep nude. So where's the ammo? Not up my ass, I can assure you. What about lighting? No security lights on the property to shine through the windows, and the light switches are not placed centrally.

    That leaves me wanting at least one spare mag and either a light source, or incredible familiarity with my house as darkened for the night. I have a headlamp, but I don't consider that a viable option, because it adds a degree of complication and I don't exactly want a beacon on my head. Plus, if it gets jarred, it'll be a severe hindrance.

    What about notifying authorities? Many say, "you investigate, get wife to call 911." Well, I'm a single dad, no wife at home. I'm engaged though, but I don't think Cinder would be the type to play damsel in distress, hiding in the closet while I take a walk and the kid is in the middle of "God knows what". And I'm not handling a phone and a gun and a magazine and possibly a lighting source all at the same time with no pockets.
     
  5. PappaJim

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    With the wife constantly hearing things at night I don't need to "practice" clearing the house. I have to get up in the middle of the night and "check things out" at least twice a week on average. Its a good thing I only have a 900 square foot house, I can get up, check the house, stop by the bathroom to off load some coffee, and be back in bed in less than 10 minutes.
     
  6. KG7IL

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    My wife just hates it when I run through the house naked. I suppose running naked with a gun would calm her down.
     
  7. Vikingdad

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    My house is pretty straightforward. Central hallway with 2 bedrooms off either side. Hallway goes from the main entrance into the kitchen/living room. One seriously edgy dog roaming the house. The wife and kids wouldn't wake up if a bomb went off, and I wake up when the dog sighs. Shooting lanes are to the left and right as I leave the master bedroom.
     
  8. trip286

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    Dude, if my kid can't see me, I ain't wearing clothes. If he can, I'll put on shorts.

    And he's been away for the summer. This leads to, get off work, come home, stripping down on my way to the recliner. I'm not clothed again until I get up the next morning, unless I have to go out for whatever reason, trash, food, yard work, whatever happens.
     
  9. QueenGlamis

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    Haven't done it, but what a great idea!

    For your lighting issue, have you thought about a weapon light? It is a great "stun" for anyone to go from creeping around in near dark to 300+ lumens in their face, especially if you have a strobe. Will blind anyone momentarily. Try it, go into a dark room, close your eyes for a minute. open them to any decently bright flashlight.

    Just an idea.

    I like the idea of sweeping the house. Our car was broken into (for a measly 2.00 USB cord) a few months ago. It was around 1-2 AM, we are sound asleep and dogs start going nuts. Well this happens if a cat is crossing the street to the neighbors etc. I laid there half asleep thinking do I need to get up, get dressed and see WTF is going on. Mind you they do this 1-2 times a month and zero issues ever, and we do get up to check. We live in a decent middle income area, and in our city our neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. So the one time I don't then this crap happens.

    Never hurts to practice, be prepared and toss good ideas out on how to do both. :)

    QG
     
  10. trip286

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    Now I'm not paranoid. Well I am, but I prefer to call it situationally aware. I live in an almost completely crime free area.

    I've done this a few times, just to try different scenarios and angles.

    If someone busts in my back door, facing the road, I haven't been able to figure out what I'd do. I guess I'd have to make a snap decision and run with it. That would put an intruder right in front of my bedroom door, and directly in line with my son's room. Any miss would fly directly towards his bed, unless I could change my angle, or fire from a knee or prone.
     
  11. trip286

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    I actually have considered a weapon mounted light, but mine has no rail and I'm not going to go that route with my carry gun. And so, I've also considered a new gun with a rail, but as we all know...guns ain't cheap.
     
  12. tri70

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    I have several places I keep guns in the house and mentally plan what if's. Can I have a gun in my hand in 5 sec? I keep small flashlights around to for power outage during storms. Any place in my house I'm 5 sec from a gun in hand. I have several doors and closet spaces/doors for cover. I sleep with clothes on tho if I have to move quickly and go outside, plus 2 daughters that don't need a TMI moment. I'm thinking hard about getting a surveillance cameras that send movement notification to your phone or email, iPad or kindle.
     
  13. Vikingdad

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    I would definitely recommend a weapon mounted light with a pressure switch. Make a positive ID on the bad guy before you shoot him. Don't want to accidentally shoot a good guy.
     
  14. texaswoodworker

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    I have practiced a few times, and I have actually cleared the house before. (Random bumps make me pretty suspicious.). I try to use a variety of guns to see how they work in a situation, and have learned a few things doing this.

    1) a pistol is definitely the easiest gun for me to clear a house with.

    2) my AR is easier to maneuver than my shotgun with an 18" barrel.

    3) a bolt action rifle is NOT a good choice for home defense.

    4) This house's layout is to MY advantage for the most part.
     
  15. Rick1967

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    I generally don't run around the house naked. It makes the kids uncomfortable.:eek: Seriously though, I have heard the stupid cats make weird noises in the middle of the night. I have cleared my house for real a couple of times.
     
  16. texaswoodworker

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    I have a neat little light I found on amazon. Between it, and the rechargeable batteries+charger, I spent maybe $20-$25 awhile back. That thing will BLIND you. 1000 lumens, and a strobe. :eek: :D

    A little big to mount on my 1911 though. :eek:
     

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  17. thatonespot

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    Duct tape. 'nuff said ;)
     
  18. kbd512

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    My step-son and I have worked on this a number of times and continue to do so.

    We decided where we would stand or move to to ambush people, which choke points cover the most entry points, where not to stand or move to avoid crossing in front of each other's muzzles or inhibiting our movement, and that we would use carbines and pistols with a preference for the pistols, given the confined nature of the house.

    The layout of the house actually makes it difficult to get in/out quickly. I'm not sure if that's an advantage or disadvantage, but that's the way it is. The longest shot is perhaps 10 yards, if that. Our house is only 1500 square feet.

    The interior walls are paper thin, but the rule is you don't shoot it until you identify it as hostile, hence a X300 on all the guns that will be used for defensive purposes.

    We have actually had burglars (from the house next to us) in our back yard, so when the dog barks at 3 AM there's usually a reason for it. He generally barks at everyone, except me (strange to me, because my wife is his owner but I take care of him because she's allergic to dogs). Anyone that comes onto the property he barks at. He's just an 85 pound boxer, isn't any sort of guard dog and isn't any real threat to anyone, but he is a good alarm.
     
  19. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Any "good guy" here knows that if they have to come busting in my door, they'd better be screaming "HELP!" when they do so. If a random person comes in needing help, I'm not a ninja, and won't be shooting without a verbal, so when I scream "WHO DA **** IS THAT!? GET ON THE FLOOR!!" it'll be on them if they don't comply.

    Cold, but I'm not concerned with other people's problems when my door gets kicked in, I'm only concerned with who's doing the kicking.
     
  20. Vikingdad

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    I am thinking more of when I was a kid and would sleepwalk. Sometimes I did some crazy sh!t, my dad said that more than once I scared the crap out of him because he thought I was an intruder and I would not respond to him. Good thing my parents didn't own guns when I was young I guess.