Not fast enough. I need more practice so I set up a fund to purchase more ammo. Care to contribute???How fast are you at pulling and shooting your conceal carry gun. Everyone talks about how well they shoot but in a situtaion how will you function.
Wouldn't practicing something like that make it look like you were getting ready to kill someone? Are you trying to build up business or just trying to lock up a law-abiding citizen for doing the right thing?Sorry Tex, 3.9 for 2 shots at 2 feet is slow even if you had a thumb break holster. You need to cut that time at least in half.
John Q.
Tanker60A3 said:Get yourself a high capacity Glock and load it with HP's, then get a Remington 870 and put a Speed Feed stock on it and load it up with 00 Buck and slugs. Maybe an AR with light and verticle grip. I, for the victim's family of course, will use a wrongful death claim to take everything you have, had, or ever will have.
Have a nice day
Is that how you walk around everyday? If not, that time means nothing...1.77 seconds
2 rounds from a Wilson Combat 45 CQB
Range - 3 yards
230 FMJ factory load 850 fps
Wilson Combat Practical holster
Sig Tac vest as cover garment
1.94 seconds if you count the third head shot
How about at 30 yards and in jeans, with your t-shirt tucked in over an IWB holster? It seems like a more reasonable engagement range and more likely attire to me.1.77 seconds
2 rounds from a Wilson Combat 45 CQB
Range - 3 yards
230 FMJ factory load 850 fps
Wilson Combat Practical holster
Sig Tac vest as cover garment
1.94 seconds if you count the third head shot
Always use your daily carry rig and work from the holster when you go to the range.
While I understand what you are saying, and there is some validity to it, I have to ask, do you know how far 30 yds is? We're talking almost a warehouse length. No restaurant, store, or anything else short of a mall main passageway would come close to being 30 yds long, 90ft straight distance.I have to completely disagree with jeepcreep927 and eng208 here .
With todays mass murders and thrill killers/robbers I think the 30 yard shot has more validity than playing "Quick Draw McGraw" from a concealed position for your average CCW holder .
The vast majority of times when the person is the main/only intended victim of a holdup unless caught completely unaware because he/she wasn't paying any attention to their surroundings events will often be obviously unfolding negating a , Wild West Fast Gun Slingers skills .
Recently the average civilian faces far more dangers in situations that a long range shots far more probable with the recent Mall , School , Restaurant , and other public venue mass victim shootings .
The lady down in Texas "Kayleen Texas ?" who's name escapes me who went on to become a Congress women after losing her parents in a restaurant shooting , experience comes to mind . They were seated and eating when the robbers entered and began randomly shooting and killing the customers .
If I recall from her story when the carnage began they shooters backs were facing her as they were shooting customers at the other end of the restaurant , had she had he gun in her instead of in the car she could have easily "Taken out " at least one shooter prior to him turning his attention to her section of seating but the shot would have been at a longer range than most "Experts" insist you must train at .
In the recent Church shooting that was ended by a lady security guard she heard the shots far from her position and drew her weapon long before even seeing the shooter , same thing in Utah in which an off duty Police officer was the hero of the day . Neither of these were at the short distances the "Experts" insist on in training .
I think recent events have shown your just as if not more likely to be in a stores isles putting can goods in your shopping cart or strolling a Malls open area as walking in a dark parking garage when bad things unfold .
In my opinion having a weapon available on your person is far more important in the real world than quick draw skills and having all of these so called experts running around insisting otherwise is nothing but a detriment to our cause of self protection .
Why ? Because most people even on duty Police never really have these skills and many more people due to physical reasons "something as simple as Arthritis in the hands even a mild case" never will , yet to deny them the ability of self defense is insane just because they can't draw and fire X# of shots in 1 1/2 -2 seconds .
Just as men and women Homesteading in the Wilderness 150 years ago managed to defend themselves from hostile Indians and preditory animals without the ability to draw fast so does a person in this day in age have the ability to defend themselves from street crime .
Having all of these wonderful "Experts" running around insisting to the contrary is nothing but foolishness and a case of us laying a trap for ourselves to fall into . How long will it be before the Politicians who never supported CCW laws in the first place and wish to destroy them take notice of all these "Experts" and make these skills a requirement in a test that must be passed to even get a CCW permit ?
If these skills are to be taught fine but , it needs to be stressed they are NOT applicable to everyday self defense and are an advanced skills course aimed more at experts who make their living carrying a gun .