How do you carry your BHP?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by jammer, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. jammer

    jammer Member Supporter

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    I'm about to get my CCW and am wondering how most of the Browning High Power owners carry their weapon or have them ready at home for self defense. The hammer has 3 positions, dropped, half cock, & full cock. The manual says that the dropped position is the recommended carrying position whether a round is in the chamber or not (then it says do not carry a round in the chamber). It says do not carry in half cock position. (It is provided as a means of catching the hammer if it slips from the thumb). I have tried leaving it in the drawer with the hammer cocked and safety on and all you have to do is release the safety and fire. I have also tried leaving a round in the chamber and leave the hammer dropped, then you have to pick it up and manually cock the hammer and fire. I haven’t tried leaving the chamber empty as it is pretty hard to rack and takes precious time. It is an older HP (about 1972) model. I feel uneasy about carrying it with the hammer cocked and safety on, but that might just be me.
    Any ideas?
    John
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Before the lawyers got into it, John Moses Browning designed that gun to be carried with a round in the chamber, hammer cocked, safety on. If the weapon is in good mechanical condition, and you have learned to keep your finger OUT of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot, it should be a non-issue.
     

  3. masterPsmith

    masterPsmith New Member

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    Condition One, cocked and locked, just as I carry my 1911. Train,train,train, until you are comfortable with carrying condition one....


    Jim.................
     
  4. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    carry it around for a while with the chamber empty but cocked with the safety on. once you see that it is safe to do so then you can carry it with one in the chamber (condition one).
     
  5. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It is a lot easier to rack when the hammer is cocked.
     
  6. BikerRN

    BikerRN New Member

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    I can assure you that it's just you.

    Get some proper training in how to manipulate and use a Single Action Autoloader and you won't have that issue.

    For the record, I carry my Hi Power with a round in the chamber, hammer back, and the safety on. I rest under my bed that way when I sleep and in my holster when awake, if I even use a holster that day. Sometimes I just shove it in my waistband and go, "Mexican Carry".
     
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  7. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    MY BHP is occasionally carried. Whether on my hip or at the computer desk, it lives its life in a constant state of "condition one".

    A BHP was designed be carried this way.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. trip286

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    Just got a 1911, and I'm already carrying condition 1. Makes me slightly nervous because this is the first semi auto I've owned, but it's really not much different than packing my DA revolver, of course with the hammer down.

    Also, these guns designed by JMB have a damn good record.
     
  9. rugerjazzkohai

    rugerjazzkohai New Member

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    At first I wasn't too crazy carrying cocked and locked, but I realized that in a true self defense situation, I may not have enough time racking it back (especially if the supporting hand is blocking or getting my cleared). If you have kids make sure you have a gun vault or something similar. In the car I have one as well. I started off practicing with an empty gun or with snap caps in the holster (or by the bed). Then draw the same way all the time. For me...1) clear the holster (if u haven't practiced already, keep ur finger off the trigger until u r pointing it at ur target) 2) disengage the safety 3) bring the piece up while clearing clothes out of the way and then support the piece with the hand that cleared ur clothes. 4) present the piece forward 5) if necessary and ur life is endanger, shoot. Go slow! Slow is clean and clean is fast. Speed will eventually happen. I'm lucky that I have a range that allows me to practice this. I'm thinking of disengaging the safety after I present. I started each steal like 2-3 seconds in between each step. I increased speed when I didnt go out of order 30 times in a row (which is the number of times it starts to be a habit). Stay safe and hopefully we don't see u on YouTube under the "handgun fails" section.
     
  10. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    If your that nervous that the hammer could prematurely fall causing a discharge "wont happen", then get a holster with a thumb break. That way the hammer portion of the gun is protected by the thumb break making the hammer unable to strike the firing pin.
     
  11. Yogi

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    @jammer
    If you are uncomfortable at all you should research and train as suggested. Get some snap caps and train, train, train.

    If you are still uncomfortable change firearms and get one you can be comfortable with.

    If you aren't 110% comfortable you will hesitate when you need to fire and your outcome may be disastrous for you.
     
  12. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    Another cocked and locked here.
     
  13. hmh

    hmh New Member

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    If its not ready to shoot then why not carry a hammer
     
  14. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Sometimes I do. My professors just think I'm a little strange.
     
  15. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    LOL, I can see why. :p
     
  16. jammer

    jammer Member Supporter

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    Thanks everyone. I am getting used to drawing the gun, taking off the safety, aiming and then placing finger on trigger and firing. Of course I've been using snap caps but I am getting used to that same routine and I'm feeling more betterish about leaving it cocked and locked.
     
  17. Polygon

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    If you don't trust the gun you're carrying to be in condition 1, then I believe you need to find a gun that you do trust. If you don't trust yourself, then I would say don't bother carrying.

    JMO
     
  18. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Train, train, train. Practice, practice, practice. Condition one is the ONLY way to carry a single action auto. You would not go deer hunting with your bolt action rifle and keep an empty chamber, would you? A rifle with a round chambered and the safety on is the same thing as condition one. You just cannot see the hammer sitting back there all cocked and scary, but it is the same thing. Put it in perspective and it can ease the nervousness.
     
  19. CHLChris

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    I carried a Defender-sized 1911 for awhile, always condition 1. Every now and then when I was home for the night and removed my holster I noticed that somehow the thumb safety had gotten disengaged. Oops.

    There were still 2 things keeping it from going bang, though. 1) It was in a holster with the trigger covered. 2) Grip safety.

    Does the JHP have a grip safety? Can't remember...
     
  20. Corwin46

    Corwin46 New Member

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    try a DA only pistol

    I have a Sig P250c. It has NO safeties on it. Works just like a DA revolver with all chambers loaded. I believe S&W makes one also. Great gun. Draw, point, shoot.