How accurate is an ar 15?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Abc1911, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. Abc1911

    Abc1911 New Member

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    How accurate is the typical ar 15 without modifications except a scope what kind of groups can you get at 350 yards? Pictures of your ar that you have and group pattern would be nice :D
     
  2. tacticalfun

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    350 yards is pushing it. In the army after 300 yards we have a dm with a ebr m14. A lightweight round will be hard to group at that distance.
     

  3. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Abc,

    I do not have any pictures. But if you are talking about the varmint models for instance in the quality stainless 1:8 twists they are more accurate than the shooter. It is not a rarity to have a 1/4 to 1/2 inch 3 or 5 shot group at 100 yards. Of course that depends on the quality of the rifle and manufacturer. I have, when I am having a good day shot many 1.4 groups with my Rock River Arms 20" A-4 Varmint Rifle with Leupold 3.5X10 Scope on it. A good 16" barreled rifle can also produce 3/4 to 1 Inch group at 100 yards from the bench with little problem. Other than the wind has more of an effect, at 300 yards they shoot excessively accurately at that range. They shoot the National Match with them using the NM Style Rifles out to 600 Yards at Camp Perry.

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  4. mountainman13

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    I know guys that can hit an 18" circle at 500 yards with iron sights.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV0CZVlLd44&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
  5. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    500 yards with iron sights no problem! Did it for many years.
     
  6. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Don't think I could. Honestly
     
  7. tacticalfun

    tacticalfun Active Member

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    Maybe a 20" barrel? 14.5" barrel would be hard pressed to group.
     
  8. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    The hardest part is getting your windage dialed in. Once you figure out that, it's a matter of applying the fundamentals of marksmanship. Trigger control, breathing are the big two. Jerk the trigger and your off by a foot!
     
  9. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    No doubt. I think my issue would be telling if I hit or not. With a scope I have no doubt I could do it.
     
  10. silverado113

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    We had people in the pits putting 10 inch spotters on the targets so you can see where you hit. Old school! I think a spotter would be in order.
     
  11. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    That would definitely be helpful.
     
  12. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    DEPENDS....
    on 3 things....barrel, ammo and shooter. Most ARs are 1 to 2 moa shooters. Precision oriented models can get 1/4 moa.

    So a 2 moa shooter will be 10" groups at 500 yards.

    1/4 moa would be 1.25" groups at 500 yards.

    just don't expect to get sub moa groups with 2-3 moa ammo. Just won't happen statistically.
     
  13. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Good point on the ammo, AT. A lot of things come into play for most of us to keep 1MOA at 350 meters and beyond. I can't do it.
     
  14. Eturnsdale

    Eturnsdale New Member

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    My brother shot on the 2MarDiv team out to six hundred meters for a while before 9/11.
     
  15. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    What's his name if you don't mind me asking? I was out there from 98-01 with 1st Bn 10th Marines.
     
  16. Eturnsdale

    Eturnsdale New Member

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    Please forgive me for being kinda hesitant to post real names on an open forum.

    But he was with 3/8 from 00 to 03 and then I think he went to 2nd Recon Battalion.
     
  17. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Understood, I don't blame you, especially with him being a part of Recon. Didn't know anyone from 3/8 back then anyways.
     
  18. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    i deployed with 3/8 in 06.. few years after you gents. hehe

    as to the OP. 500 yards was actually not to hard. just had to focus. as far as group size though.. well i dont think it was stunning. lol
     
  19. Eturnsdale

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    Speak of the devil, he called just as I was reading your replies. He wants to know if you were a part of RCT-8 in Fallujah in 06.
     
  20. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    fallujah wasnt in 06. believe that was 04. 06 was AR Ramadi