Hounds

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by 1911beast, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. 1911beast

    1911beast New Member

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    Can you teach hounds how to duck hunt and pheasant hunt or is it to hard and if you can what would be the best one
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Duck hunt- not really. You use retreivers- dogs that like to swim- they fetch the shot down ducks.

    Pheasnt, quail, chukar- oh my yes- that is a bird dog. It takes patience- but that dog is usually a pointer- hounds are generally scent trackers and pursuit dogs- they give chase. Deer, racoons, etc.
     

  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    IIRC, there are three dog hunting behaviors: tracking, pointing, and retrieving. There are only two breeds that were really bred to try and do all three: Weimarainers and Vizlas. They won't track as well as a Blue Tick. They won't point as well as a German Shorthair. And they won't retrieve as well as a Lab. But they do all fairly well.
     
  4. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    You can teach a dog to hunt any thing...............
     
  5. Old_Crow

    Old_Crow New Member

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    Not being snotty here just honest. If you need to ask this question you aren't capable of training a dog. A puppy from proven stock is going to cost over $250. $250 is a breeder likes you and plans to hunt over your dogs price.
     
  6. xcoreyyyx

    xcoreyyyx New Member

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    I'll just leave this here.
     

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  7. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Huh? :confused:

    Asking questions is the way people get capable.
     
  8. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Before and after........

    Research, read every thing you can on hunting dogs and retrievers. Most dog breeds I know of don't hunt ducks untill the hunter has a cripple on the ground. One breed will hunt and point pheasant and will also retrieve ducks. and if you are a true hunter that one dog will amaze you at what it will hunt. Don't keep a hard headed dog, it will ruin your hunt......
     
  9. tri70

    tri70 New Member

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    Your ability to train will depend on how well the dog can hunt. Training for some dogs must be kept up from year to year. A penned dog or tied dog will hunt better than one running loose, pending breed, and training of course. How often you hunt with the dog. My grandfather always had muts and they were always hunting something. I love to watch a good bird dog work and point over a covey of quail. I have been pheasant hunting in SD several times and the dog of choice is a lab.
     
  10. Old_Crow

    Old_Crow New Member

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    Once again I am not being snotty, just honest. Training dogs isn't a cheap proposition. Most of the best dog trainers are second or third generation trainers. If you have no background in hunting with dogs training one to hunt isn't something you can learn in a forum or by reading a book. It's like taking a college course with no lab time. You learn to talk a good game but putting it in practice is a horse of a different color. I would prefer that everyone here thinks I am a jerk than set the man up for failure. I know who I am.
     
  11. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Old crows are smarter.......

    The man has to start some where, this is not on the job training. I guess we could just throw away the written word and go back to old school. What he gleans from reading will help. But when you can learn from others that have learned from thier on mistakes then it's a plus........Old crows lived to be old by watching young crows eat the poisoned corn......:eek:
     
  12. Old_Crow

    Old_Crow New Member

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    If he hunts with people that have good dogs training will come easy to him. He will likely acquire an older dog that can still hunt but it's a step slower than dogs in their prime. The old dog will train a younger dog for him.

    Also the hunter that takes him in as hunting partner will know when he is ready for a dog.

    The notion that someone can go from not knowing what breed of dog they need to dog trainer by reading with no one to show him the way is a bit far fetched.

    I have eaten a bit of poison corn myself. I have bought curs to hunt hogs in the for money competitions. I bought the best stock. I gave the dogs every advantage I could. Yet I still got my head handed to me by the second and third generation hog hunters.
     
  13. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Training......

    The last yellow lab I had was given to me. He was 2 years old and full of piss and vineger. The man that owned him before paid $500 for the dog and another $1500 to have him trained, they could not train this dog. He was head strong and did every thing HIS way...... It took me 3 months going to the boat launch to to teach him how to swim....At a 120 # pounds he was to big for a boat in a duck blind......His hard head matched mine......:)