Home Storage - loaded or no?

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by swipes22, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. swipes22

    swipes22 New Member

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    I know that the b&w safety "rule" on home gun storage is to store the gun and ammo in separate places. In general, I can see how that makes sense.

    I just received a gun as a gift -- a S&W .4506 -- and have taken up shooting as a hobby. I'm still very green, obviously. But I have also wanted a gun for a while for home defense. It seems to me that if you have an intruder in your home, having the ammo and gun in different spots is just pointless.

    So I am wondering how others who own a gun safe -- I have a simple GVB-1000 -- handle this for home defense? Do you keep a full clip in your safe with the gun for a quick load? Do you keep the gun loaded in the safe? Or do you really keep it separate from the ammo?

    Advice? Suggestions?

    (I am married with two small daughters, FYI...)
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Most of my firearms (that were not lost in that HORRIBLE boating accident) are stored empty in the safes. Firearms that I keep for immediate use are loaded, but secured under lock when not on my person. With munchkins around, you might consider a handgun safe for a single handgun. That will permit you to store a loaded, ready for use firearm where small people will not have access to it.
     

  3. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    The GVB 1000 is a good way to secure your firearm whether it is loaded or not. The Catch-22 here is it appears you are acting as a responsible firearm owner by locking your gun up. Unsecured firearms in the home are an accident waiting to happen as they can fall into the wrong hands and be used against your neighbor or worse yet, your family.

    Now let's listen to what the cowboys have to say, Ye-ha.
     
  4. Jay

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    I think the key is your definition.... Safety rules say to keep your handgun unloaded until it's ready to use. In my opinion, a home defense handgun should always be ready to use, thus loaded. If not on your person, then safely away from the little ones, but as accessible as possible. Locked in a safe in the den, is of little use if somebody breaks in the front door..... you get the idea. You gotta figure out what works best for you, in your house.
     
  5. Yunus

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  6. swipes22

    swipes22 New Member

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    All good tips. I like the idea of keeping it loaded but not chambered. That would give me peace of mind knowing that it's ready with a simple pull of the slide and a flick of the safety. The idea of having a full mag NEXT to the gun in the safe is
    ideal, I think, but having to reach into the safe twice could cost you a second that you don't have.

    Hmm...

    So mag in, safety on, no round chambered.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    Thats how I roll, Mag in, nothing in the chamber. Also keep two other loaded mags next to it. When Im out its always with me.
     
  8. swipes22

    swipes22 New Member

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    Well, I'm not to the carry concealed stage of my gun life just yet. haha Someday maybe...

    But thanks for all the great advice, guys. Gonna have to educate the wife on that arrangement, too, for when I'm not around.
     
  9. Mongo

    Mongo Active Member Supporter

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    "If your gun isn't loaded, you may as well have a rock." Dan Renfro
     
  10. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    My big fear being a home invasion, about the only time I don't have a loaded handgun on me is when I'm in the shower or sleeping. Then it's always within easy reach. I trust in the safety features designed into my normal carry piece, so I feel it would be more dangerous to have to rack the slide before drawing a bead than to have a round in the chamber full-time. Very rarely do criminals call ahead, so I choose to be prepared. That's just me.
     
  11. swipes22

    swipes22 New Member

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    All good points to consider. As a family man, home invasion is my biggest fear as well. We had an alarm system installed about a year ago for peace of mind but having the .45 around makes me feel much better. If, God forbid, I ever need to reach into the GunVault to defend my home, I just want it to be done as safely and efficiently as possible. I also just don't want storage to be a safety issue and the GunVault helps with that.

    My brother-in-law says he kept his loaded, so I guess I'll just have to figure out what I'm most comfortable with.

    Thanks all.
     
  12. IGETEVEN

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    You mean you don't have one of these fancy, high speed, waterproof setups when showering Gork? :p :D
     

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  13. montveil

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    I keep my 1911 loaded mag in, one in chamber uncocked.
    All I have to do in the dark is cock the hammer and go.
    However, I keep it in a GUN VAULT THAT has a four finger touch pad on the top that can be programmed to any 4 touch sequence such as 1234 4321 3421 etc. I can locate the safe in my closet in the dark, align my hand on the finger groves push the sequence, and presto the door pops down, a light comes on and I'm armed.
    Keeping one in the chamber allows for no racking etc
    After a few drills in the dark I can be fully armed in less than a minute. My wife also does not have to rack the slide, fiddle with safeties etc as the 1911 has the grip safety and un-cocked hammer I feel this method is about as fast as a revolver
    Just what I do
     
  14. Steve65

    Steve65 New Member

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    My Ruger 9mm is in a small safe in the bedroom with one up the pipe, my .22 revolver the wife likes is loaded and in the back of the amoire within her reach but out of sight and out of reach of a 5 year old who visits sometimes. My "little one" is 14 and shoots.

    Now I am just not sure what to do with the new 18.5" barrel HD pump. Kinda wish it would recognize DNA so I could keep it loaded and beside the bed but no one else could fire it.
     
  15. montveil

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    Wouldn't it be great if some one would make a pistol like magazine for a pump..
    I know years back the made a magazine bolt action shotgun.
    That would solve the security problem and would allow quick reloading.
    There must be a reason???
     
  16. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    DAMN! And I told her all I wanted for Christmas was a new Carhartt!
     
  17. murraywc

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    One important thing is let your kids get familiar with your gun. My dad never locked a gun up as we were growing up but he took us shooting and showed us where his guns were and the importance of safety. I had my own at 8, a 20 ga shotgun and a .25 pistol. I keep most of my guns unloaded and in a safe but i have a couple loaded and available but my girls a now old enough to use them and be safe. You don't want your kids to stumble across them and be facinated with no idea how to be safe.
     
  18. GEORGIA

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    The only thing i have in the safe is important papers.My only 2 guns are always with me.The shiny shotgun under the bed,and the 1911 in a drawer right by my head.I keep them loaded,safety on 24/7.I dont have any kids though.
     
  19. swipes22

    swipes22 New Member

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    This is probably the closest to my situation, with the GunVault and all. Cock the hammer and go seems easy. Besides that -- and the safety, of course -- I wouldn't want to fumble with the slide, especially if I was trying to stay quiet.

    Bottom line: I will be prepared, but I hope I never have to go out in the dark with this thing.

    Bonus question: Anyone here ever had to go clear the house in the middle of the night?
     
  20. JTJ

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    I had to clear my daughters house one evening. She and the lady next door both reported a prowler to 911. My SIL was out of town and she had 2 small children at the time. We set up a question code so I would know if she was OK. I instructed her to go to her bedroom with the kids and get behind the bed with her 9mm. She knows how to use it too. I entered and let her know I was there and not the prowler. I asked the question and got the correct response so I knew the prowler was not with her. I cleared all the rooms and told her it was safe. I did not open her door. She came out with the 9mm at the ready.
    2 women at home called in a prowler and the police took almost an hour to get there. One officer and he rang the door bell with his weapon holstered. If the prowler had been inside and armed, the officer would not have stood a chance. We knew police response was poor or I would have waited for the officer and let him in. This was not rural just spread thin.
    My house is alarmed. If I knew a prowler was inside, I would not clear the house. I would call for the police in case the alarm had been disabled. I have outside access from my bedroom and I know we would get more than 1 officer quickley.