Home Protection Gun

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by guthy125, Jan 28, 2012.

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  1. guthy125

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    Hey guys, so I'm getting married in April, and my fiancé is pregnant. We live in a neighborhood where the cops are here a few times a week and we have helicopters flying over the house almost every night. She has had her car broken into and nothing important was stolen thank god.

    So my main question is which gun (semi or revolver) and which caliber would you folks recommend for me so I can feel safer in protecting my family or when I am not home, she will be able to defend herself?

    I have been to the range and have shot a couple of guns: Colt 1911, Glock 22 (40SW, I believe that is the correct model, was my grandfathers), and a S&W revolver (can't recall the model of it, but it shot 38 special). I feel comfortable with both 45 ACP and 40SW, as well as the 38. Since I have not shot a 357 or a 9mm, which I'm pretty sure I can easily handle the 9mm.

    I'm willing to spend a decent chunk of money if I need to. But if I can keep the price range pretty decent, the better. Also I am open to other makes besides Glock because of the no thumb safety. Any and all suggestions/opinions are welcome.
     
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  2. jordan89

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    You're best bet would be to get what ever is comfortable for you. All the calibers you listed are sufficient for home defense. Revolvers tend to be easier to maintain (in my opinion). Have you considered a shot gun?

    You might do a search there have been lots of suggestions made in the past that might help you out.
     

  3. Vincine

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    If you're in a house, big dog. If you're in a small apartment, small yappy dog. Then the gun. Can she handle a shot gun?
     
  4. trip286

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    I personally recommend DA revolvers for new owners, mostly because your not very likely to pull the trigger by accident (long and heavy pull).

    In your case, I'd recommend both you and your fiancé going to a range that rents guns and trying out an assortment.

    And here's a problem! Your fiancé is pregnant. You don't need or want lead residue flying around your pregnant fiancé. In fact, some ranges specifically well not allow pregnant ladies on the range.

    So I guess that leaves just you. Go rent some more, get what's most comfortable to you, and then get your lady her own later.
     
  5. guthy125

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    We live in a small house that the living room kitchen are like one room with a small counter island seperating them and then the bed/bath and thats it. I wouldn't be taking her until the baby is born (July 29th) and only when one of our parents would come to watch the baby while I have her try out some guns. I wouldnt mind a shotgun but again very small place.
     
  6. Paladin201

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    Yep, and it's not good for the little one even after he/she is born. I once saw a guy who returned from the range after a long shooting session and went straight to pick up his new baby, without washing his hands. When you come home after shooting, wash up and throw those clothes in the wash.
     
  7. guthy125

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    Oh that yes. I actually wash my hands before I leave the range. The closest one to me has a bathroom, and when I come home from it, I do change. This post is also because I do want her to feel safe enough to be able to use it, god forbid, in that situation, because once I lose some weight, I am joining the navy and if I'm gone I will feel a lot better if she knows how to use it and defend her and the baby with it.
     
  8. levelcross

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    Paladin good point that seems to be forgotten, wash your hands and change clothes even take a shower. A shotty with lighter loads works well, or any of the guns you mentioned earlier. What do you like the best, shoot the best, now the same question for her.
     
  9. JTJ

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    Obviously if she has to use it, it has to be something she can handle and not be afraid of. The question is what is she willing and able to shoot? You are not the primary concern in this case. What ever you get has to fast and easy to grab and operate. Fear and panic will cause deadly mistakes. You or she may not have the presence of mind to thumb a safety or rack a slide. Most importantly, you both must be willing to pull the trigger. If you or she are not then dont bother and get a baseball bat or a stun gun.
    You will need a light source known as a Tac-light. Whether you attach it to the weapon or hand hold is something you and the weapon will have to decide.
    Carbines are easier to use and require less training. A 16" AR is a good choice. The adjustable stock is great but leave it set for her. Attach a tac-light and use irons. You dont want to have to turn anything on except the light. A military 55 grn 5.56x45 (223) wont penetrate walls as badly as a typical handgun as they tumble and lose energy quickly.
    Shotguns are next best but still have to be aimed. A shot pattern will expand roughly 1 inch per yard. Bird shot is not a good defense load. I wont load less than #4 buck. A 20 gauge will be lighter and easier to handle for smaller shooters. I would recommend an auto rather than a pump. Less felt recoil and less chance of a short stroke jam in a panic. Get one with a full stock. Adjustable would be nice. The hand grips look neat but are not that great to shoot accurately. They are mostly Hollywood. Shotgun pellets will penetrate walls. Look at low recoil loads if needed.
    The handgun is the last in line. They do not have the power of the carbine or shotgun and require more training. A bullet from a handgun will penetrate lots of walls. The lighter the handgun the more it will recoil. It is a home defense weapon and does not need to be light. I would look at the Springfield XD series. Easier to shoot than the Glock and has a grip safety. Glocks have bigger grips and dont fit smaller hands well. The XD's will be heavier than the equivalent Glock which helps with the recoil and is why they are easier to shoot. I have both.
    Now we will see how many toes I stepped on.
     
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  10. Balota

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    What you can protect her with and what she can protect herself with could be two different weapons. If she's willing to invest some time practicing, she may become comfortable with your gun. If not, a revolver is about as simple as it gets. DA revolver provides a speed bump (not exactly a safety) in the form of a long, hard pull. She won't pull the trigger accidentally, but if she does need to pull it, the adrenaline won't even notice the pull.

    The comments about cleaning up good before exposing the wife and kids are very important. Lead is used in the primers of most rounds. The lead becomes lead salts in some cases. The lead salts get deposited on your face and hands. Eating after shooting creates the chance for you to ingest some of the lead salts. Same problem as little kids eating paint chips. Also, picking up your baby and kissing him/her exposes the baby. Very bad mojo, bud.

    Probably the most important thing you can do for your family is to talk with them about this subject. In detail. And listen to what your wife tells you. Us guys want to think we know about guns, and some of you do (not so sure about me... :) ). But we don't know about how our wives feel about guns until we communicate with them. I promise, to her having you listen would be 10x better than having you watch a chick flick with her!!!
     
  11. guthy125

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    Thanks for all the suggestions and opinions guys. I am going to talk to her about them and see what she thinks.
     
  12. Minionsram

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    When I am at home I use a shotgun for home def. 18.5 bar with pistol grip. Loaded with Fiocchi reduced recoil LE rounds. the wife loves the shot gun when I am away. A good dog is also key to home defence, they let you know when to get ready.
     
  13. wbaker

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    Look at the Taurus judge it shoots .410 shotgun shells and .45 long colts great home protection especially with xd1 ammo
     
  14. russ1982

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    For a woman to use for home protection I would get a very short shot gun. Barrel length 18 inches and a short stock. Or one that has the pistol grip molded in it. A semi auto would be very good. In my experience (operation enduring freedom vet) if u have to shoot at someone u are trying not to **** yourself while u are pulling the trigger. So make it as simple as possible. One of the best things about the shotgun is its point and shoot. Not a lot of practice is needed to hit something or someone.
     
  15. jordan89

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    A pistol grip can be hell. IMO I would stick to the normal shoulder stock. A shoulder absorbs recoil better than your wrist.
     
  16. JTJ

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  17. russ1982

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    Sorry I meant a shoulder stock with a pistol grip molded in it. It would give a lady a little more control over the shotgun. My bad I should have been a little more clear. On a side note I made some breeching guns for a DOE security force that had just the pistol grip. Cool factor was a 10 actually using them was a negative 100. They sucked. Felt like they were going to break ur wrest everytime u shot one.
     
  18. mcb

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    You can get a good quality 12 or 20 gauge pump shotgun for a good price (cheaper than most quality handguns).
    If you really want a handgun, consider a 357 mag revolver. Ruger GP100 or S&W 686. Both will shoot a 38 special as a good starting point once you are able to take your fiance to the range. These weapons will have light recoil with a 38 spcl and when you feel comfortable you can move to 357 mag. The 357 mag is still the measuring stick for home defense handgun rounds.
     
  19. Bear304inc

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    not sure if its just me, but my 870 has pistol grips foregrip and handle. I shoot it just fine, went through a box and a half just last weekend no prob on wrist. Now I am 6'2 , 260#. wonder if that makes that big o difference?
     
  20. WilliamTF

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    Even with a pistolgrip
     
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