Home Invasion

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Moon_Bounce, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. Moon_Bounce

    Moon_Bounce New Member

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    A couple nights ago my girlfriend and I were laying in bed when we started to hear unusual noises downstairs on the main level. We do live in a double block on a main road so we are used to hearing noises. But my girlfriend and I both thought it was something more than our neighbors walking around opening cabinets and such. So I grabbed my pistol, checked all of my corners while making sure my home was not occupied by an intruder or intruders. I check everywhere in my house my house was clear nothing was stolen and there were no signs of an entry. Thankfully.

    However I cannot stop thinking about that night and what if two people were in my home what would I have done. I know what I would have done if there was one but what if as I came down my stairs I saw one individual in my living room and I didn't know about the other in my kitchen or my basement which are blind spots from where I was standing. I could could ask the intruder if there are others with him but he could lie and the others could attack me when I have my back turned.

    How do I contain one intruder without knowing the possibility of others?

    Any recommendations? Has anybody been in a situation like this before?
     
  2. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I like to hold them down and tickle them. Make them giggle and urinate on themselves.

    Then, I tea bag them and give them a mushroom stamp.

    They won't ever forget that. After I post the photographs online everywhere.
     

  3. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Watch action movies & clear the house dressed as--
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  4. eborden1122

    eborden1122 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Try and find a home protection/defense class. That is what I am doing thru a local NRA instructor. Then practice inside your house with other family members so they know what to do as well. Get a second weapon for your girlfriend as well so she can protect herself. Good luck and take care.
     
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  5. DeltaF

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    Safely clearing a building or room alone is practically impossible. Ideally you need at least 1 other person to watch your back while you engage each threat area.

    Obviously thats a luxury we don't always have in home defense. There are a lot of different schools of thought on this, because there's no "perfect" way to do it. You will always be blind to the other threat areas around you.

    This is the ultimate super short version of what we are trained to do when we have to clear a building by ourselves: Start from the room you're in and clear room. Never pass an open room or threat area. Always keep the clear areas behind you and the threat areas in front of you when possible.

    If you find a person, you want to engage them from behind concealment or cover if possible and again if you can you want to keep all the threat areas in front of you and all the areas you cleared behind you.

    You should start giving loud verbal commands. If you see a gun have them place it on the ground and slide it across the floor towards you and check them for other weapons (easiest way is by making them show you their waistband, turn their pockets inside out and show you their ankles) then order them to get on the ground and face away from you. If/when they comply, scan for other threats, secure their weapon, and then check the rest of the threat areas for other intruders.

    If you do this from behind cover and have the "safe" areas that you have already cleared behind you, you minimize the chance of being flanked or overpowered.

    In reality the person in your house will probably run like hell when they come face to face with the barrel of a gun and an angry homeowner behind it. That's the number 1 fear of most burglars.
     
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  6. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    GF needs a shotgun or something for stationary defense from behind the mattress.



    Not saying to do this, but did anybody else think "put him in a coffin"?
     
  7. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Stay close to your GF, stay up stairs and get ready, Only you know what to do if someone comes through the door , Insurance will cover your losses to theft .. Let them take what ever they want while you keep yourself and her safe
     
  8. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The sensible thing to do would be to sit tight and ring the police. Going round the house trying to clear it unless absolutely necessary would be stupid. Do that and get shot who's going to stop the intruder going after your family.
     
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  9. JW357

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    Good advice posted so far, mostly.

    Basically engage one intruder (whether that be shooting them because they are pointing a gun at you, or whatever the case may be, situation will dictate) first. Don't get tunnel vision. Try to scan the room with your peripheral vision while he's still a threat. Pay attention to noises. When the first threat is no longer a threat, start thoroughly searching the house for another threat.

    As Delta said, clearing a room safely by yourself is very difficult, if not impossible. The idea is to not allow yourself to be flanked. No blind spots.

    When we clear rooms, we stack up outside the door and enter one immediately after the other. The first guy peels off in one direction to clear his own segment of the room. Depending on what the first person in the stack does, the second will take a different sector. Each person is communicating at all times and they don't move onto the next room until everyone has verified their sector is clear, and therefore the room is clear.

    The same principle can sort of be adopted to solo clearing. Don't allow blind spots as much as possible, and deal with the threat as quickly as you can. Everyone's house is setup differently so I can't Tell you specifically what plan to take. However, you need to figure it out, do some dry runs, and inform your woman of how it would work. Think about multiple plans, for multiple entrance point possibilities.

    Glad nothing bad came from your experience.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    both of these are actually IMO the best suggestions. probably the safest in keeping your loved one safe as well. you have much better tactical advantage in staying put and behind whatever cover you can find.

    now, if you have loved ones in other parts of the house, then this is not always an option and other methods will need to take place, to secure the others safety.
     
  11. drew661

    drew661 New Member

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    Yes, not my advice either. But if they are there at night when you are obviously home they are there to hurt/rape/kill and the threat should be dealt with accordingly. Don't assume they just want your tv. If they did they would have come during the day.
    But I have young children and I live in georgia, the local police/courts would not frown on wasting a home intruder/threat. (I have asked numerous times)
    Better to be judged than carried.
     
  12. drew661

    drew661 New Member

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    They can have whatever hey want downstairs but of they come upstairs (bedrooms) they are going to be carried out with all 30 rounds in their carcass.
     
  13. Doc3402

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    If I could click the like button until my finger fell off I would do it for that post. Outstanding advice. Call the police, have your GF stay on the line with them, and stay put. You know your house, you know the furniture layout, you know the approaches to your location, and they probably don't. Stay where you are, stay alert, and prepare to defend your stronghold.
     
  14. drew661

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    Also totally agree, 100%
    But point was it the poise a threat don't worry about clearing and detaining. Just protect you and your loved ones. See-Shoot-Repeat
     
  15. GrandRapidsGuns

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    I agree! Great plan with the highest probability of staying safe... if you walk out you are gambling on whether or not you would be outnumbered or flanked by trying to clear your house yourself.

    I'd arm myself and my wife (in this case your GF) by grabbing our sidearms on either side of our bed in our hand safes.. and then this is OUR plan:

    1. Wake each other up quietly and grab our firearms and assure they are loaded and ready. No lights on.
    2. Grab our emergency cell phone (prepaid, always charged, always by the bed)
    3. Grab flashlight and emergency kit (emergency kit consists of a spare key to the front door of the house attached to a glo-stick).
    4. Retreat to opposite side of room from entry
    5. Call the police and inform them of the invasion (we will have heard the alarm go off first... hopefully)
    6. Wait. Either wait for the police to come (which we will instruct 911 dispatcher to send the police to our back window were we can drop the spare key and the glo-stick in the yard and they can find it, then they can enter quietly if need be, and also they don't have to break down the door which they don't pay for).
    7. If the worst case happens before the police get there... we wait until we hear them outside the bedroom or hear them trying to enter. At that point we demand they identify themselves, as we are armed. If we establish visual contact and there is no threat, strong loud verbal commands will be used. "STOP STOP STOP", "GET ON THE GROUND, GET ON THE GROUND, GET ON THE GROUND"... etc..
    8. If none of that works, and somebody enters and is clearly not a friend or family member and is obviously there for bad reasons, well then I think you know what comes next. The sound of empty magazines hitting the ground.
     
  16. JonM

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    your job is not to clear the house. its to hole up in a room with your loved ones call the police and if someone comes in the safe room that doesnt belong thats when it turns to shoot no-shoot time.

    if possible stay where you are wait for hep in a defensive stance.

    your not equiped as a civilian with a family to hunt down goblins. defense should be the priority. police typically wait for help before going after a goblin they tend not to do it solo if it can be avoided. why should you tryand do something trained professionals avoid doing??
     
  17. orangello

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    I could call the police to check scary noises that COULD be a home invader, but I would prefer not to have any strangers in my home unless absolutely necessary, and I don't consider a "house check" to be such a situation. I am usually the only human in my house after I go to bed. If there is another human in my house after I go to bed, I will feel mortally threatened unless said human is running for the door or proned out on the floor begging for mercy. The gun safe is a few steps from where I sleep and unlocked whenever I am home; the shotgun is beside the alarm clock; everything is loaded with spare magazines or speed loaders beside them (side saddle shell holder on the shotgun, full tube. I actually did clear my place a few weeks ago due to a loud noise that sounded like a door being forced, xd45 in one hand with flashlight in the other.

    If I heard a noise and thought somebody may be in MY home, I would carefully and quietly clear the house, lights out, flashlight in weak hand. I have done so several times in the past. So far, I have yet to find anything other than a troublemaking cat knocking something off a counter. To have followed the "hide and call 911" advice would have seriously annoyed the county mounties by now and probably cost me a half dozen doors AND more importantly would have probably extended their already far-from-instanteous response time via the "boy who cried wolf" effect.

    Does the "hide and wait for police"advice depend on city dweller vs county dweller or does it vary with police response time?
     
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  18. DeltaF

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    If somebody is in my house taking my stuff it's on like donkey kong. The locals can help me clean up the mess when I'm through. They won't be there for at least 45 minutes and I'm not calling them just cuz something went "crash bang" in my kitchen. A mans home is his last refuge. If I can't be safe there, I can't be safe anywhere. I'm not retreating or holing up anywhere. It's my house. My kids. My wife. My stuff. And anybody that violates that sacred place is going to be in some pain.
     
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  19. MisterMcCool

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    If you find one guy in the house and convince him to surrender, force him to lead you through the remaining rooms. Make him your shield and hostage.
     
  20. molonlabexx

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    I would shelter in place and let them come at you through the door. Burglars usually wont come after you, they will flee. But anything can happen, never has happened to me before. Although I did have a situation like yours where I thought I was about to have contact, thankfully the suspects were identified as non threatening. I just grabbed my shotgun and held in place until further notice.