Home invasion robbery in Livermore Calif

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Shoobee, May 31, 2012.

  1. Shoobee

    Shoobee New Member

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    Tonight's news reported a home invasion robbery in Livermore Calif.

    The victims are an older married couple who were asleep when their house was broken into at 4 a.m. by 2 robbers who tied them up, covered their heads, and ransacked their home.

    This city, home of the famous Lawrence Livermore Labs, seems to be experiencing a rash of these burglaries and robberies lately.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...-casino-owners-robbed-livermore-home-invasion

    So, solutions ...

    (1) do nothing, let the robbers steal, and just make an insurance claim?

    (2) get a dog?

    (3) sign up for property survelliance security?

    (4) get a semi-auto pistol or shotgun?

    (5) several of the above?
     
  2. Mason609

    Mason609 New Member

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    You forgot these 2 options...

    (6) move to a less crime area

    (7) move out of Cali altogether
     

  3. Shoobee

    Shoobee New Member

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    Its actually a rather high class neighborhood, that's why they have been targeted.

    California has jobs, which is something hard to find elsewhere.

    Otherwise I would move to Arizona.

    But the same thing could also happen in Ariz as well.

    Arizona is a 69% gun ownership state not 100%.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/health/interactives/guns/ownership.html
     
  4. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    get a dog, get an alarm, and get a SD firearm ;)


    chances are that those commiting home invasions have been spotting thier victims and know thier routines/habits :mad: They also most likey know whether a home owner has defenses or not :cool:

    act/behave like a victim and chances are you will be a victim
     
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  5. Mason609

    Mason609 New Member

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    The same thing could happen anywhere. The ODDS of it happneing elsewhere are smaller when you get out of Cali.

    Choosing a place to live based on gun ownership stats is stupid. But, if it truly matters to you, move to Vermont. Much better gun laws than AZ. Much less crime per capita, too.

    Like I said with option 6... move out of the area. If it's an area targetted because of wealth, that'll never change. Securing your home so it won't happen is a fantasy. Once the criminals know the reaction time for the police, they'll know how much time they have to break in and can plan accordingly. High class neighborhoods don't really bring in the junkies looking for a quick fix. They tend to bring in the criminals that know what they are doing.
     
  6. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    If i were them. What i'd do:
    If my job (income) is there, i'd definitely install a good security home alarm, install more deadlock on doors and stopper on windows. Then get a SD firearm not to forget putting up a sticker or sign with a gun graphic.
    And most importantly, no harms been made to ourlives. Lives are priceless.
    Cos there's a saying "small percentage for the bad guys to come back twice for the same place". If it happens, either they are stupid OR we are stupid.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    If we look at our own daily routines, we will find that we are repetitious with most that we do.

    Those bushes by the windows may need trimming. Our lights are turned off by a certain hour each night.
    The privacy fence provides just as much privacy for someone to break in as it does for me.
    "Have to get to work by nine....."
    We know the fastest route to work and use it all the time everyday.
    Outside lights are lit only when we go out for the evening.
    Everyone of out "friends" on that social network know we are going on vacation in 2 weeks.

    Moving out may not be the best (the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence, but it still needs mowing).

    Awareness, preparation, practice.
     
  8. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Get a sociopathic dog and a Mossberg 590A1 12 guage shotgun.
     
  9. levelcross

    levelcross New Member

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    First line of defense is a secure home, here LEO's will come and give you pointers to make your home safer against burglars.
    Next is a early warning system, I like a 100# German Shepard. She is intimidating to look at even if she is a lap dog, barks at anything that comes into the yard.
    A remote control light in the Dinning room and the Den with the remote on my night stand, right beside my pistol.
    Mossberg Shotty beside the bed.
     
  10. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I vote for 2,3, & 4.................
     
  11. Flat4sti

    Flat4sti New Member

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    I have a Lhasa apso..Sophie I know she isn't the manliness dog, but i love her, and a Cairn Terrier...They are so sensitive to noises, they will hear a car when it pulls into the driveway and by the way they are barking i know if it somebody supposed to be here or not . The point is they let me know something is up, with plenty of notice. and when i am at home and they perk up and both look towards the back yard i always check things out. Usually it is just a car engine/exhaust noise but you never know.

    About a month ago I was awoken in the middle of the night by a noise. You know how you hear something and snap wide awake. It sounded like somebody crumpled up a piece of paper, or stepped on a potato chip bag in my bedroom...the dogs were going ballistic. Nothing was there, doors and all windows were secure. Very weird! Dogs would not get off the bed. Very weird. My brother swears my place is haunted, other weird stuff has happened through out the years, like i would get home and all of the lights and tv's are on. But, this really creeped me out.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    most of these type of people get robbd because they act like victims. act like a victim long enough, and you will become one. i have several large dogs and if they make it past them, (very doubtful!) then they risk running into a pissed off homeowners with many firearms who are not afraid to shoot first and ask questions afterwards. with my dogs, there is no way to get within a hundred yards of my house!

    i second the option of moving. i have lived in several large cities, but i have a house and land and live in a very rural area. there are some advantages to living in the country. less crime, i can have large dogs for protection, i can step out back and target shoot and if some BG wanders up, he may just end up a buzzard buffet!
     
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  13. MrWray

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    Yessir, its nice to be able to walk outside and bust off a few rounds and not even disturb any neighbors. The rural area that i live in has its occassional crime streaks, but its always down the road and never in my area. Im pretty well known about being accurate not giving a sh!t
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i agree. my worst crime spree where i live is the teenagers every once and a while like to use mailboxes for batting practice. i have had to replace mine twice in seven years! few occasional beer bottles and cans in the ditches over the weekends. other than that, pretty tame.
     
  15. GlockRenegade

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    I am getting a dog soon. Ive always wanted a german shepard. Any suggestions? I dnt like Pitts
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    German Shepards are a good breed for protection. the most important features is the ability to bark at anything out of ordinary and size. the dog doesn't have to be aggresive. a large barking dog will intimidate most intruders and give you advanced warning of something being wrong. even large hound breeds make excellent warning systems!
     
  17. GlockRenegade

    GlockRenegade New Member

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    Well put, thanks for the ideas!
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    dogs can be a very good deterrent to home invasion and robbery, and even work when no ones home. plus they become part of the family and make good companions. an alarm system won't sit in your lap and lick your face or wag it's tail because you arrived home! if a person can have dogs, it's one suggestion i make for crime deterrent. i understand because of where some people live, it's not an option they have, but if a person does, i endorse getting a dog or several as in my situation.
     
  19. nukinfuts29

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    #4 requires waking up, which they may not have done. I'm all for old people getting little dogs, they bare like crazy. Every house needs a dog to bark, a camera system for evidence, and at least one gun!
     
  20. Overkill0084

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    Solutions for who? You? The couple who was robbed? Your neighbor?

    Doing nothing seems like a poor choice.
    Dog, perhaps, are we talking about the kind of people who would be able to care for it correctly?
    Property surveillance? Are you talking armed security guards? If you can afford it, why not? For those of us with lesser means, how about a monitored alarm system? They are not a bad deal.
    Firearm? Depends on the person. But "yes," if realistic.