HOME DEFENSE-Learn it well

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by GY6, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. GY6

    GY6 New Member

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    My Father(former Marine) once told me..."it is better to be Tried by 12, then Buried by 6"....which means it is better to be in court dealing with STOPPING A THREAT in your house with LETHAL FORCE, then to be dead because you didn't want to use LETHAL FORCE to stop the threat.
    When it comes to safety of your family from "OVER PENETRATION" of ammo. You just have to know about the Personal Defense ammo you have in your weapon and know how much it penetrates(a Body, wall, door...ect). I would recommend Hornady Critical Defense ammo or Winchester PDX1 personal protection ammo, for handguns. If you have a Shotgun I would recommend 12gauge 00-Buck rounds 2/3in shells.

    Home Defense is MUCH MORE then just owning a Gun, you have to know your weapon, and how to use it under STRESS. Also what ammo you are carrying in it, and how it reacts when fired.
    STAY SAFE, and LONG LIVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

    -GY6 @ www.youtube.com/GY6vids
     
  2. chazzy

    chazzy New Member

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    Awsome thread!!!! Ive been waiting to see ballistics tests with actual organs, ballistics gel and am waiting to see something close to an equivalent of the sternum....
     

  3. GY6

    GY6 New Member

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    Im going to be making another one within the month, using ribs and a heart. Should be a great test! Thanks for watching
     
  4. chazzy

    chazzy New Member

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    Yeah keep em coming....I think they're very interesting!!!
     
  5. lilrichthedragon

    lilrichthedragon New Member

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    that's something everyone with a family they care about should know.
     
  6. GY6

    GY6 New Member

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    Thank you...More to come=)
     
  7. Ranger-6

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    The only reason why we say ..."it is better to be Tried by 12, then Buried by 6".... is because we do not know what's on the other side.
     
  8. GY6

    GY6 New Member

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    My Father and I would definitely disagree...We know whats on the other side. The Grace of God, and his Forgiving Love, gives us eternal salvation from a well deserved eternity in Hell. Sorry I dont mean to preach, but just know there is an answer out there for you, and His name is Jesus Christ
     
  9. Ranger-6

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    If that is the case then lets get going.
    I am packed and ready to go.
    There is no sense in hanging around here another second...
     
  10. Josh1158

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    I have a 12 gage for home defense but I have slugs instead of 00 buck shot. How bad is the penetration gona be?
     
  11. mountainman13

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    I wouldn't recommend it. I have personally seen a 9mm will penetrate a person a bed a floor and end up in the wall below. I picked up a .25 after that. You should consider rock salt or bird shot unless you plan on possibly killing your neighbor
     
  12. mountainman13

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    Another option if you have the money. The governor shoots .410 shot or just about any version of .45 for that matter. Six shots of .410 buck in a nice compact package is hard to beat for home defense.
     
  13. primer1

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    I've never recovered a slug from a deer(12ga.), even when shooting a large bodied buck in the front chest and giving him dual exhaust.
     
  14. Josh1158

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    Would thoes home defense rounds work in a rifled barrel ?
     
  15. Sniper03

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    Josh,

    "Excessive Penetration!" If you want to do some tests! make you about four square 2X4 frames about 2 ft. square. Find some old drywall from a contractor or dump and tac it onto both sides of the frames. Then get two 8 ft. 2x4s and attach the frames spaced out about two feet apart by nailing the 2x4s across the top of the frames just to hold them together for the test. And stand about 10-15 ft from the first frame (which would represent the average distance of confrontation in a home) and fire the slug through them. I think you will be amazed at the penetration you get. I would certainly recomend smaller projectiles in a home if you have anyone living there other than you and or your wife. You might want to think about for example #2 Shot Mag Loads. First of all at close range the #2 Shot will not even leave the wad. If you would shoot one at a paper target at 3-5 yards for example you will probably have one large hole in the target as the wad with the shot in it will be together and go through the paper. It will look like a slug hole! Only some thoughts! But upon impact with barrier material the #2 shot will start loosing momentum! Therefore less penetration through additional walls and material. But still plenty enough to bring an aggressor down with no doubt with a good shot! Only some thoughts!:)

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  16. hardluk1

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    mountain man13. rock slat??? You should not be looking to piss of or wound anyone that does not belong in your home. And light weight low brass bird shot can be just about as wrong. You should want to kill them. No playin around. Just asume they my be on angle dust or all methheaded up and not thinking about the pain.

    Depending on your home constrution type, distance to your neighbors home and the slug your useing a full bore slug could very easily end up in your neighbors home some where half way across it.


    A shoot over looked is the very heavy tungsten shots used for duck, turkey, coyote with shot size for #5 to BB which is .18 cal and T which is a .20 cal with weight from 1 1/2 to 2 3/8oz. This shot could be a better choice for a BG when neighbors and other family member are a concern.

    It is very possible to miss a BG in a hall way of a house with out aiming a shotgun so practice is a most. No point and shooting from the hip at inside house distance.

    The 55gr fmj .223 is better than many pistol rounds in a house as the bullets tend to key hole and come apart at the high velocitys when hitting drywall.
     
  17. mountainman13

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    Only problem with .223 in a house is everyone will be deaf for a week. But better deaf than dead
     
  18. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    What!! I can't hear you.
     
  19. lilrichthedragon

    lilrichthedragon New Member

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    why don't y'all just get a s.a.w. and be done with it