Home Defense for an arthritic man

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Ntraina, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. Ntraina

    Ntraina New Member

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    I'm new to these forums, so I'd like to just say hello first.
    So... Hello!

    Ok, so my dad needs a home defense shot gun, but he suffers from a form of rheumatoid arthritis known as gout. I took him to my local FFL today to handle a few specimens just to get a feeling for them. He could barely operate the pump action on an 870, and the over and under was completely out of the question as well. Came to the conclusion that he needs a semi. Now the man is in his 60's, and has almost no firearm experience. He is a lefty, and his right hand is prone to gout flare ups.

    Can anyone recommend a left handed, home defense, semi? I know it's a tall order, but I'm sure some one on this site might be able to offer some information.
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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  3. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    Man, that's a tall order. A friend has gout and they haven't been able to control it fully with Meds, and he has been reduced to shooting at most a 22 or a 38 Special offhand with his one good hand. He has tried a 20 and a 12 semi while standing with a walker and the pain in his hand was too bad to keep it up.
    You might try a get him to shoot a right handed 20 gauge 1100 and see how that does recoil wise with buckshot, and then you could try to find one in a lefty version. I think Remington and Beretta are about the only ones who have made those, but not sure.
    Good luck.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    So, if an over/under is out, i guess a double-barrelled "coach gun" wouldn't work either, eh?
     
  5. fastline

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    I am a lefty and been shooting RH guns all my life. I have had to learn a lot of things the "wrong" way, matter of fact. I dunno if I would get too worried about the LH gun. If this is for HD, the chance of him ever needing it is slim anyway but in any case, you learn to block out seeing that shell eject and probably would be focused on other matters in HD use.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Try a pistol grip forend. It will give better leverage to "rack" the gun.

    Teach him to load and use from "cruiser ready" mode. Unload and clear the shotgun. Point the muzzle in a safe direction and pull the trigger. DO NOT rack the action. Hold the forend forward and load the magazine tube. Leave the safety in the fire position.

    To use, simply rack the action and fire.

    I find the Winchester 1300/FN pump shotguns the easiest and fastest to operate. They are far easier and faster than the 870 or Mossbergs. THere are alot of used Defenders out there at a very reasonable price.
     
  7. collegekid20

    collegekid20 New Member

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    Have you considered a really big dog you could train, might be more expensive but it could help in other ways also
     
  8. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A hammerless coach gun in 20 gauge could be choice. The are shorter and lighter than the OUs. You dont see many short OU shotguns. Dont overlook a 410. There are some defensive rounds designed for the Judge that would work well in a light pump. The standard load of 3-000 buck is not a slacker with the higher velocity. I saw a back pack model pump in 410 that was pretty slick but I dont know the brand..
    One other possibility would be a pistol caliber carbine.
     
  9. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I was thinking about the situation last night. I checked with the gun shop and the 410 pump was a Mossberg 510 mini Super Bantam. Another model is the SA20 which is an Auto.
    Here is another suggestion. At short range a shotgun has to be aimed. The pattern really doesn't open up that quick. Consider a Ruger 10-22, possibly with a laser and 25 rnd mag. Several hits from a 22 rifle are a lot better than misses from a shotgun. It is light, quick, easy to shoot with no recoil, less training than a handgun and they are relatively cheap to shoot. Lots of practice and lots of accessories.
     
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  10. orangello

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  11. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The Ruger 9 & 40 carbine are on the heavy side and might be hard to charge with bad hands. He could barely rack an 870. There are a lot of other 22 semi's out there that would also work. CCI Velocitors would boost the power or even a 22Mag semi. I was trying to keep the package as light and easy to operate as possible. There may be a mag size restriction where he lives so a tube fed could be considered for the 15 rnd capacity. If a 9 or 40 were desired, I would look at the Hi Point. They look bad but are reliable.
     
  12. NickySantoro

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    You might want to consider those Velocitors in a 14 round Marlin 60. The M.E. on those are pretty impressive for .22LR. If your dad can handle a coach gun, the Aguila Mini shells seem to have an M.E. of about 981 ft. lbs. I tried a couple in my O/U and the recoil is very light.
    FWIW
    YMMV
     
  13. stalkingbear

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    If he has gout and has a hard time handling and pumping a 12 ga, a light 20 ga auto is the obvious answer.