Home Defense Accessories

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by hardcorps103, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. hardcorps103

    hardcorps103 New Member

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    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Buying a Remington 870 Express Tactical soon. Looking into the various accessory options and attempting to sort through them with people who have experience with them. Here is what I AM getting:

    1. Pistol grip
    2. Laser+light

    Here is what I was wondering. UAG sells a rail system slide with a vertical grip attachment in a package with all the bells and whistles. You can see it here: Amazon.com: UAG Remington 870 12 Gauge Shotgun Ultimate Tactical Conversion Kit: Six Position Stock + Shell Holders + Recoil Pad + Tri Rail Forend Pump + Light + Laser + Grip: Sports & Outdoors

    Now, my question is...do these install easily? (I mean, do I NEED a gunsmith to do it to make sure it is done properly)

    I also am looking at separate systems with just a small rail system up front and then adding a pistol grip slide, with the same question in mind.

    If anyone has any experience with these systems or can give me another opinion about my choice in accessories, it would be much appreciated.
     
  2. bungiex8e8

    bungiex8e8 New Member

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  3. HeroesTactical

    HeroesTactical New Member

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    Great purchase!

    hardcorps,
    The 870 express is a great option for home defense and recreation, you are sure to have a blast with it! (pun intended)

    In my opinion UAG makes decent products but not at the price figure you are looking at.

    A full quad rail becomes very tiresome in the hand after racking the slide a multiple times.

    Also you could use a folding stock as well for better mobility around the house in case a break in or simply for ease of carry to the range.

    I recommend the Advanced Technology Intl 6-Position Side Folding Tactical Shotgun Stock and For end
    Advanced Technology Intl Tact Shotgn 6-Pos SdFldg Stk/Fore TSG0100

    It comes with everything you need and none of what you don't
    you save about 40 dollars that you can put towards a nice light or forward grip that you actually want!

    The installation is not difficult, all you need is patience and regular garage tools

    I would be happy to walk you through our entire product line if you have any more questions
    happy shooting!
     
  4. bungiex8e8

    bungiex8e8 New Member

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    o sry i didnt read your hole post. Im not experinced with shotguns to much
     
  5. fireguy

    fireguy New Member

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    I have a pistol grip shoulder stock. I like it very much for the extra control it gives me with the recoil. I'm not a fan of just a pistol grip, seems like it would be too limiting.

    I have not had any luck with lights mounted on a 12 gauge. Either they work loose, or something inside gets buggered up and they don't work properly, and I have tried some good and cheap lights, neither have held up. I don't really see a need for a laser on a shotgun, either. I don't think it would help me much.

    The best things I have added to a defense shotgun are a sidesaddle to hold more shells, a mag extension, and a 3 point sling. That is enough for me. YMMV. If my shotgun had a receiver rail I would think about a reflex or holographic sight. I've used these before on carbines and they give great target acquisition while keeping both eyes open. The also will work if you are not holding or sighting normally as when moving, or follow-up shots.
    Good luck and happy shooting.
     
  6. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I think the Mossberg barrel for the 870 with the stand off muzzle brake would be kind of a last ditch effort to keep someone from grabbing your gun if your pokin at em;)
     

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  7. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I agree with this. I like my pistol grip with a full shoulder stock and my sidesaddle.
     
  8. hardcorps103

    hardcorps103 New Member

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    Thanks for the responses. Now a different question...I am looking for a very basic sight to put on the rail system. I want to buy EOtech, but I don't want a sight worth more than my shotgun. Is there a good sight that doesn't cost $400 out there? It sounds like a lot of the cheaper ones are made for airsoft guns...

    I will probably go with the rail system fore-grip I used on my first deployment, then try (at least for a bit) to add an LED flashlight, if not for anything other than to throw the intruder off before I disarm/dismember them. I think that seems to be the best for stability and functionality.

    Overall, I think the accessories will be:
    Adjustable stock
    Pistol grip
    Standard fore grip
    Reflex/red dot sight
    Flashlight
    Side saddle (5 rds)
     
  9. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I would think you would need a pretty stout sighting device to handle the recoil on a 12guage, but i have minimal experience with such devices.

    I have seen recommended a Burris model that wasn't all that expensive; not sure if it could handle the recoil, though.
     
  10. hardcorps103

    hardcorps103 New Member

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    Yeah, that's my issue. I don't want to sight in quick, fire 2 rounds off at the intruder, then have the sight drop to the ground as he reaches for his weapon...you know what I mean? For now, I think the stock sight will WORK, but rapid target acquisition is much easier with a red-dot/holo sight...
     
  11. HeroesTactical

    HeroesTactical New Member

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    You can never fail with ghost ring sights on a shot gun!
     
  12. sgttessnc

    sgttessnc New Member

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    ive put my eotech on my mossberg and have noticed that it is so high with my stock that I need serious comb ajustments or pads. I removed it and replaced with some nice iron sights by williams, they are fiber optic and work and look great! I do have a picatinny rail mounted to the top of my receiver and if I want I could add a red dot. as for lights, im up in the air about them, for Home Defense I believe it is a must, in CQB settings you must be able to positively identify your target. I have a headlamp for now as a cheap alternative.

    I will chime in on pistol grips... ouch. and your not aiming shooting from the hip and if your gonna bring it up to aim with a red dot or irons... buy a full stock or collapseable or side folding or something like that.

    To me pistol grips are for breaching doors or holding up liquor stores.

    so my fellow Raleigh shotgun shooter... where ya shooting at?