home defense: 12ga or 20ga?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Ray_Ray, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. Ray_Ray

    Ray_Ray New Member

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    What is yalls opinion of shotgun gauge? I'm about to buy one and I'm thinking about the mossberg 500 12 gauge?
     
  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Who is going to be using it? My wife is small and wont touch my 12 gauge but will shoot the 20 gauge. 9 pellet 00 buck loads are available for 20 gauge.
     

  3. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Best scattergun for the money IMO- NEVER had one fail ;)
    If the wife don't like the 12 get her a 20- Ain't like they can't be had for under $200 :)
     
  4. rhyno13

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    Either one will do the job. I have a 12 guage, but I would have a 20 guage for the wife/gf
     
  5. HockaLouis

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    Hoss, r u putting on that "accent"? Country wisdom is shining thru either way!

    The 12 ga. is more powerful/efficient in throwing more lead. Beside being a handier feeling gun usually, a 20 ga. is addequate, and w/3" shells can even approximate a regular 12 ga. shell. The only reason I might want only the 20 if that's what the lady/kids would prefer (and they clearly would) is confusing different ga. shells. And wouldn't u feel silly running out of one when u want or need them and having plenty of the other on hand?

    I'd rather get one gun (or even two) and have his and her SHELLS. SOmeone may not want to spend the extra money getting the longer, bigger pellet, 20 ga. shells but they're less expensive than another shotgun.

    This one can also be used for sport and hunting...
     

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  6. HOSSFLY

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    Cant help it- I type same way i talk :p
     
  7. Underdog

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    I find the 20ga much more effecient as a HD weapon. It's easier to handle and follow up shots can be done quicker if need be. My wife also handles and shoots the 20ga way better than a 12ga. Get whatever makes you and the family more comfortable and practice with it and learn how to use it.
     
  8. pauly62

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    I have a 870 20gage 20 inch barrel very handy
     
  9. lukeisme

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    In my house we use a 12 ga for primary hd. My wife and boys the smallest weighing just under 90 pounds seem to handle it just fine. Recoil for the most part is in the shooters mind. Some people think a .223 has a kick. Getting back on target for the most part is stance and being ready for the shot. At least that is what I have found. Being used to the firearm is the biggest key to anything from function to fire. IMHO.
     
  10. chuckusaret

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    IMO, everyone has one, the Mossberg 500 is the way to go, cheap and very reliable. I have several but use a 12 ga. Persuader with a 20" barrel and extended magazine for HD. Everything is this world has an opportunity cost and recoil is one. Practice overcomes the felt recoil and barrel rise.
     
  11. JTJ

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    There are light recoil 12 gauge loads available also. I have a 12 but I keep a 20 double coach gun handy. It is loaded with 2 3/4" 20 pellet #3 buck with an elastic shell carrier on the stock. At 7 yards it patterns 5" and 4". I do have 2 3/4" 9 pellet 00 buck for it as well as 1 oz slugs. It would make a good survival gun.
     
  12. SSGN_Doc

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    I'd take the 12 ga based on ammo alone. I find a much wider variety of loads available on the Internet as well as in local stores. There are reduced pellet loads, reduced recoil loads, sporting loads, law enforcement loads, less lethal loads, etc. For the utmost in availability and versatity the 12 is hard to beat.

    I'll even throw in another plug for the Mossberg. I've shot my personal one since the early 1990s as well as the military version of the 500 and 590 in the Navy. I also have an 870 and find both guns to be very dependable.
     
  13. Ray_Ray

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    My wife probably would never shoot it.. I would like to teach my 13 yo daughter and 6yo son to shoot it. The 20ga would be better for them?
     
  14. SSGN_Doc

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    The difference in kick isn't so great that the kids are really going to like a 20 over a 12. As for the wife, she just may need some help learning to shoot a 12 right.

    If it is a huge issue for them though the 20 ga will work fine for defense, you just need to work a little harder to find good defensive loads for it. They may cost a little more too. But they are out there.
     
  15. JTJ

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  16. HockaLouis

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    If u r looking at a .410 for defense get a .357 of some kind or a .40 carbine instead...
     
  17. gmaster456

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    I don't get the notion that 20 inherently has so much less recoil than a 12. Depending on the load, a 20 can feel the same, if not worse than a 12 due to the weight of the gun.
     
  18. Ray_Ray

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    I already have 2 410's so I have that part covered..... I may just get 1 20ga and 1 12ga LOL......
     
  19. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You are correct but it is what the shooter believes. The shooter will shrug off the recoil from the 20 because he or she believes it is lighter even though it is more with comparable loads. Now the standard 20 gauge loads are lighter but a 1 oz slug in a 20 will have just as much force as a 1 oz slug in a 12 gauge and the lighter gun will recoil more. The 20 pellet #3 buck load is not as bad as a 9 pellet 00 buck load. A whole bunch less than a 12 or 15 pellet 00 buck load.
    Note: Dont ever shoot a buck and ball load through a choke.:eek:
     
  20. hillbillygrunt

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    I say 12 and 20. Just another excuse for more firearms. And that way if they want a change you already have the 12 on hand.