hollow tip bullets

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by ArmyOfFurbies, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. ArmyOfFurbies

    ArmyOfFurbies New Member

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    I was looking under the cushions of my couch for my remote control when I was suprised to see a hollow tipped bullet had fallen out of someone's pocket. It looked like it would be used in a pistol and had a small length and diameter.

    Are there any kind of bullets that are illegal? Forgive me for my ignorance of ammunition knowledge.

    What is a bullet with a hollow tip called and why is the tip hollow?
     
  2. 1hole

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    A bullet with a "hollow tip" is called a hollow point. Other points for handgun bullets are Soft Point, Round Nose, Wad Cutter, Semi-Wad Cutter, and Spire Point. Some bullets are Full Metal Jacket, Lead - either Copper washed or natural, Jacketed or half-jacketed, each with a point designed for a specific purpose. You may have found a .22 rim fire cartridge.

    The major reason for most bullet designs are based on the need for rapid or slow expansion at the target. Hollow points are expected to expand well but, at handgun (low) velocities, they often fail to expand at all so it's largely physycological for the shooter.

    Cartridges may be loaded with any of these bullets. None are illegal. Yet.
     
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  3. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Hollow points

    Except in New freaking Jersey. I believe HP handgun ammo is illegal there for non LEO's.
     
  4. 1hole

    1hole New Member

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    robocop10mm - "Except in New freaking Jersey. I believe HP handgun ammo is illegal there for non LEO's"

    Interestin, but I guess it's no surprise. Doesn't really matter, a properly made soft point is more reliable anyway but don't tell the pollyticans!
     
  5. 1984cj

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    Teflon coated ammunition is illegal in AL. But hollow points are fine.
     
  6. Dgunsmith

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    TEFLON coated bullets

    Original KTW ammo "armor piercing" handgun rounds were teflon coated to keep the hard bullets from tearing the rifling out of the barrels by acting as a lubricant.

    Teflon coating a bullets does not make it armor piercing, no more than nyclad coating makes federal 38 specials armor piercing.

    Moly coating doesnt make bullets penetrate any more than normal either.

    Teflon doesn't make a bullet a "Cop Killer" Round !:eek:
     
  7. matt g

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    Funny what the media can do to weak minds isn't it?
     
  8. HadEmAll

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    What kind of markings are on the head? (the flat part opposite the actual bullet)
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    HP ammo

    DGUNSMITH, +1 on your analysis of the KTW. You are right on. I have a couple of the original rounds in the display case. Interesting to note that a "cop killer bullet" has never killed a cop.

    I had a dumb a$$ rookie book a guy for possession of AP ammo for having a mag full of Nyclad ammo in a High Power. I pointed out the problem with his logic and charges were dropped. Media hype is a very dangerous thing. More dangerous than guns, ammo or gang bangers.
     
  10. pioneer461

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    In New Joisey hollow point ammo is even illegal for cops. Federal found a way around it by making Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) ammo. They have a piece of silicone where the cavity would be, and covered it with the copper jacket, scored from the inside. These bullets expand and retain weight better than most HPs.

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  11. P-Funk

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    I live in Bakersfield, CA and mid next year they are outlawing lead ammo for hunters to preserve the condors here that have "eaten animal remains containing lead buckshot and that is the main reason that this freakin bird is kicking over". what will replace this ammo in a 22 target round, and at what price?
     
  12. Duck

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    I'm guessing it will be replaced with something like bismuth. It is also used as a replacement for steel shot that is used for waterfowl. The cost? Expect to pay at least twice the cost of standard ammo.
     
  13. sargenv

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    currently there is no substitute for .22 lr ammo, but I suspect we might see them come up with maybe a tin bullet, tin is light and might be heavy enough to make a 22 out of. All copper bullets like barnes makes will be favored for hunting bullet designs and are apparently on the "list of legal ammo". Steel shot has been used for years for waterfowl, but I'm having a discussion with someone on another site about legality of using it in those regions as it is "not officially listed" as yet. Same goes for tungsten iron, tungsten polymer, and bismuth.
     
  14. nillanola

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    Some people have this misconception on Alabama law. It says you cannot possess or sell or aquire teflon-coated steel or brass core ammo. you can possess teflon-coated lead core ammo.
     
  15. spittinfire

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    Let's go back a few posts....are you seriously telling me that HP ammo is illegal in NJ??
     
  16. Jpyle

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    Sort of...contrary to conventional wisdom HP is not banned in NJ, it is however illegal to use it for concealed carry and also possibly in a HD situation, yes you can be charged for using unauthorized ammo during an otherwise justified defensive shooting. It is permitted for range use and is not illegal to either purchase or possess.

    As the story goes the dumba** legislature was convinced that hollowpoint ammo was the same as armor piercing ammo and banned it. My favorite anecdote is that the combination of the 15 round mag limit and the banning of hollowpoints for defensive use has resulted in a lot of .40 S&W and .45 ACP guns in NJ loaded out with 180 and 230 gr FMJ...somewhat the opposite of the safe environment the dopes in Trenton were after.