High quality scope

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Sibil, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. Sibil

    Sibil New Member

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    After weeks of reading and talking with others rifleman I already bought the Rem 700P .308win. Now Im considering to buy a high quality scope between $1200 may be a bushnell or leupold. I dont know nothing about scope and rifle so I need a sincere recomendation I dont want to spend money on something to then be regretful. The purpose of the scope will be precision target shooting for 100 to 600yds. I want if is posible a brief explanation of scopes. Thank you in advance.
     
  2. Sibil

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    I notice that there is a optics & accesories forum for this theme. If a moderator can change the post to his proper forum will be appropiate.
     

  3. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Sibil,

    I would suggest the Leupold MKIII 30MM Tube 3.5X10 Illuminated Reticle . It is in your price range. And I will tell you once you ever use a 30MM Tube Scope you will not want to go back to the 1". Just lets a whole lot more light in and better view. Check one out! You will need the standard scope base and medium height 30MM Rings. That would make you one fine outfit!
    Let us know what you get and send us some pics!:)03
     
  4. hardluk1

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    Heres a great site to get some info on scopes-http://www.6mmbr.com/optics.html

    Some of this is old info and prices maybe not be right with a few scopes added and some not avaible now. But gives you the knowledge to pick your own. Then go to SWFA for everthing avalible in scopes-http://swfa.com/Riflescopes-C1443.aspx
     
  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Leupold and Nikon both have excellent scopes in that price range. There may be others as well, but I have extensive personal experience with both Leupold and Nikon, and I've never been disappointed..

    As was said earlier, be sure to get a 30 MM tube and a lighted reticle. I would also recommend a 50 MM objective lens.
     
  6. Catfish

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    If it is for target only, and will be shot from the bench, then the more power the better. I have bought nothing but Leupold scopes for about 20 years now and highly recomand them. If there is a chance that you will ever want to hunt with this gun then I would recomand something else, depending on what you might want to hunt.
     
  7. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm curious/ Why would not his Remington be a near ideal hunting rifle???
     
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  9. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    With a $1200 budget,there are plenty of scope choices that are available.
    If your just planning on target shooting with this rifle,and not hunting,I'd also suggest going with higher magnification scope than a 3.5-10x.A 6-24x or similar magnification scope would work better for target work.

    It really depends on what kind of Bell's and Whistle's your looking for in optics.
    What focal plane do you want? First Focal Plane or Second.
    With a FFP,the reticle grows with magnification,With SFP only the target does,the reticle remains the same at all powers.

    What type of Reticle do you want? There are many to choose from,but not everyone offers the same reticles.

    Some brands have Zero stops,Illuminated reticles,and other things that are nice to have if you want them,but really aren't needed.

    Brands that I'd look at would be-
    Sightron SIII-I have 5 of these scopes.They are one of the best bangs for the buck going.
    Vortex Viper PST-They have some great features,but the glass isn't as clear as the Sightron SIII at higher magnifications.
    Nightforce-Great scopes,they're a little heavy,but excellent scopes.
    IOR Valdada-Another excellent scope,great glass.
    Weaver Tactical-The glass will run with the best of them,nice scopes for the price.
    Zeiss Conquest-Some of the brightest/clearest glass out there.They just lack adjustability with a 1" tube.
    SWFA Tactical-I've never looked thru one,but they have great reviews.
    Minox ZA 5-You can't beat Schott glass from Germany,but these are more of a hunting style scope.Not many reticles to choose from,but for the price they're worth a look.I looked thru one on a guy's 375 H&H last week.It made my Swarovski PH look cheap.
    Burris-Bushnell-Nikon-Leupold-They all make decent scopes,I just wouldn't spend my money on them with all the other scopes that blow them out of the water,today.

    Some of the brands listed cost a little more than $1200,but for a little more you can get some great optics.
     
  10. Sibil

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    What are the advantage of the ilumm. reticle? I was considering a simple crosshair. My gunsmith recomended me a NightForce.

    Txhillbilly, what do you mean when you say focal plane (first and second)? What is zero stops?
     
  11. hardluk1

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    What are you doing with this rifle. I have yet to find a need for a lighted crosshair. I hunt and play at long range and have had to wait for legal light to beable to finally make a shot at longer distance with a normal class of respecible 1" hunting scope . I find that in very low light these added lights can take away from "seeing " the field of view as clearly as I like too.

    sibil bet the same smithy was going to order you that scope too!!
     
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  12. Sibil

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    I will used it mainly for benchrest and prone positions, I think rarely will use it for standing or sitting.
     
  13. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I respectfully disagree. I like a lighted reticle. It gives you roughly 30 minutes in the AM and PM. And if push came to shove, and you needed to use the rifle for "serious social shooting," the lighted reticle would give you a chance to make a shot on a moonlit night.
     
  14. hardluk1

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    Not for me, A light takes away a bit of the peripheral around the edges of the target I want to hit. May have more to do with your scopes lense quality and recticle if you think you need it. If I can't see my target it a light on the reticle does not matter . If I can see it I don't need the light. Least than been my view on it. We have a couple of them on scopes and I just leave the batteries out of them after try'n them as I have got'n older. Still the same for me. Guess we are all different in wants and needs. The light might help some if they have issues with placeing a aim point on a target as in black on black paper but many have them on there scope and never used them even at long range too.

    This guys is wanting scope for match shooting, a light is a real waist.
     
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  15. Txhillbilly

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    For Target shooting,there is really no need in having an Illuminated reticle.The only real use that I have for them is when we hunt hogs/coyotes at night,they come in very handy then.

    NightForce is a very good scope,and if it's within your budget I'd say get one.You won't be disappointed with it.

    Positive Zero stops have become very popular in Target/Tactical style scopes.They allow you to set your zero on your turrets,and then you can return to your zero setting on your scope very fast after you have turned your turrets to shoot at farther range shots.
    Example-You set your zero at 100 yards,and then dial the turrets up to shoot at 600 yards.After you shoot,you can just turn the turrets back to the positive stop,and you'll be back at your 100 yard zero point.
    Without this positive stop,you have to remember how many clicks you have turned the turrets to return to your original zero.

    While a simple crosshair will work for you,most prefer a Mil-dot or any of the newer variants of the Mil-dot reticle for target/long range shooting.They take all the guessing out with having many reference points for calculating range/windage due to wind and weather conditions.You can adjust your aiming point without turning the turrets,if you understand how to use the different reference points of the reticle.

    First Focal Plane reticles grow in size with the target image when you turn up the magnification of the scope.
    Second Focal Plane reticles remain the same size at any magnification,only the target image changes.
    It's all whatever the shooter prefers.I have both styles,and really don't have a preference on FFP/SFP reticles.