I just picked up a High Point 9mm carbine with a target stock or the "ts" model. Yes, i know it's a High Point and I know I will be bashed for this but I got it because it was cheap and look like a decent HD weapon. Took it to the range, mounted a bsa red dot on it, sighted it in, and the plinking began. Overall it was incredible. Most of my groups were 1in. groups using 5 shots and my best group was .75in. with 5 shots. I was really impressed and I would recommend this weapon to anyone.