HI Point vs all others

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by JMAtactical, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    I was recently in a very heated discussion about the quality and reliability of Hi point. Most of ou know I would never own one as I love my Sigs and Glocks and even my spring field 1911. But I had a guy try to tell me that he would defend his house and family with the Hi point over all the rest Any day. How do y'all feel about this
     
  2. towboater

    towboater Active Member

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    I think that guy is an idiot. There are many great reliable handguns out there.
     

  3. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Hi-point is good for exactly what it was built for: to provide home protection and concealed carry for those of a lower income bracket that can't afford a Sig, Glock or Springfield. They are not meant to fire 10,000 rounds nor are they a "Legacy Gun" that you can hand down to your children. It's meant for the rare shooter that needs to defend himself, and in that capacity it is adequate.

    I must add that it is a great entry gun for the family where the spouse controls the purse strings and any more than $150 will have the other half screaming, "You spent HOW MUCH on a gun?!?!" This gets them introduced to shooting without the high expense to start, and you can always upgrade.
     
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  4. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    That is probably the most respectable answer I have heard so far. Not even on this forum but on Facebook and discussions with friends and co workers. I personally would never use one but I see what your saying. This is a touchy subject for the HP fans out there but the facts you have said give me a more balanced answer next time I am asked.
     
  5. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have better and more expensive rifles and shotguns locked in the safe. But I do keep a Hi-Point JHP in a drawer for fast access home defense. It is reliable and has a lifetime warranty.
    I would not say I prefer it over all others, but it does the job.
     
  6. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    I am just one I those guys that likes my high end pistols. I can't rest easy with a cheap gun at my side. I know that my Glock could fail and I know Hi Points have worked just fine for many people but I wouldn't have one. My friend has a 380 HP and he likes it a lot. When I hold it and shoot it something about it just turns me away.
     
  7. chipotlejoe

    chipotlejoe New Member

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    I've owned one and I wouldn't recommend one to anybody for home protection or self defense. Unless you plan on hitting them over the head with it. I practically had to give it away because there is no resale value.
     
  8. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    I agree man. I know we all have our opinions and beliefs and mine is that you should defend your life with a firearm you know and trust will operate. I am always preaching this to the people that come to me for tactical advice or training. I tell them just like a certain firearm add " when it comes time to defend your self do you want the deal of the day in your hand or the most dependable weapon you can buy" my own words but I still stole it lol
     
  9. trip286

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    Just damn near any modern handgun is generally very reliable.

    If all I had were a hi point, I wouldn't hesitate to use it.

    If all I had were a couple hundred bucks, and no great prospect of getting more in pocket, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

    They go bang. Their CS is stellar.

    I'm glad I have something a bit easier to pack around though.
     
  10. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    The torture test I've seen Hi Point go through is impressive.

    They are ugly. They are heavy. They are cheap. Would I pick it over a knife or stick? Yes. Would I pick it over a Jimenez? Probably. Would I buy one? Not likely.

    If it's all you can afford, then go for it.
     
  11. readygirl

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    We take them in on trade once in a while, generally give $50 for them, then they go in the used case for $80 to $90, We send them all to HI-POINT for inspection, and fine tuning. When we get them back, they run as good as any gun out there.....HP customer service is over the top good. Im not a HP fanperson...but what is,,,is what is......:)
     
  12. kellman20

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    Its possible that someone out there has tried all sorts of guns and settled on the hi-point as their favorite. That being said its not likely. I have owned a c9 and the 40 cal pistol. I have since sold both of them because I now own far better (IMHO) guns. I bought them when I first got into shooting and after they began to collect dust I got rid of them. People defend them so staunchly because of all the undue hatred people have for them. They aren't worthless by any means they just are what they are, cheap to buy, heavy, and fairly reliable( I say fairly because their magazines are terribly inconsistent). But saying they are the best option out there is pretty preposterous. That is like saying you used to drive a corvette or a Porsche but decided the geo metro was a better vehicle. I like the hp brand just fine. I'm glad there is a firearm out there for people in this price range. It's just not for me and I think if most people who say they are just as good as my glock where honest, they'd admit they just bought it because it was cheap and they didn't want to wait until they could afford something better. I know that's how I ended up with one.
     
  13. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    JMA, I always try to look at what niche any item fills that other items in their category do not. That's what usually leads me to finding the good points in anything. Very rarely does a consumer item stay in production and selling to the public very long without someone's problem being solved by that item. If it's unsafe, the company is sued out of business. Hi-Point was founded in 1992, 21 years ago. Their "bad" reputation comes from a new manufacturer having mis-steps that were simply growing pains and the general belief amongst the firearm industry that "cheap" can never equal "usable," or even "safe." In some circles, Forjas Taurus has endured much the same maligning, and they have been around since 1939 with millions of happy customers. Both companies offer a lifetime guarantee to any owner, but even this has not swayed some that affordable guns can also be efficient in their price point.

    Of course, one must also take into account "The Impossible Consumer." This is the person that wants a gun as powerful as a .44 magnum, the quality of S&W Performance Center, the weight of a derringer, the cost of a Hi-Point, and while you're at it, no recoil. No matter what a company produces, this person will never be happy. Luckily, most of us are wise enough to realize that everything in life is a compromise. :)
     
  14. kellman20

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    Of course, one must also take into account "The Impossible Consumer." This is the person that wants a gun as powerful as a .44 magnum, the quality of S&W Performance Center, the weight of a derringer, the cost of a Hi-Point, and while you're at it, no recoil. No matter what a company produces, this person will never be happy. Luckily, most of us are wise enough to realize that everything in life is a compromise. :)[/QUOTE]
    That is so true. You see this in forum post from people looking to buy their first handgun all the time. If such a gun existed everyone would have it.
     
  15. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    So it seems that it all boils down to what's right for you and your budget. So far this thread has shown me a lot I hadn't considered in the past. Hell even I don't carry my Glock when I go camping, I just feel like my revolver is a better choice. I can see where some people want to rush to the defense of the HP brand and I understand. I am glad y'all could help to give me more insight. I by means have the cash to throw at high priced firearms anymore as I now have two children and they are expensive lol. I have in the past when I had money to throw away owned the Jimenez 22 just to see how it performed. It sucked bad by the way lol. I guess there is no harm in trying a brand out that isn't very costly but in my case I won't own one as I have said. Maybe I will just try to see the other side of the spectrum when it comes to this debate as I know it will happen again. I know that I would rather own a nice firearm with a good rep all day long. But a good point was made here. You don't stay in business if you produce failed products so to that extent alone I will give a little credit to the company and let their fan base enjoy the guns
     
  16. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If you prefer a more expensive gun, I could sell mine for $1,200. :D
     
  17. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    It's this guy's home, OP, his family.

    If he chooses to protect it with Hi-Point,

    so be it.

    I wouldn't be surprised when his, and many

    other well maintained Hi-Points work,

    where the gun snob's dirty units fail.
     
  18. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You make a good point, Therewolf. A well-maintained Hi-Point may answer the call better than an abused and Ill-cared-for name brand.
     
  19. readygirl

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    This one came in as a trade at the shop. 9mm, ext mag. They gave it to me. I ran 50rnds WWB thru it just so i could say i did. Tossed it in the back of the safe. Its like a Jap truck, runs good, but you dont want anybody to see you driving it..........:D
     

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  20. JMAtactical

    JMAtactical New Member

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    Hahaha I love it. It's a good point.