Herter's .308 Win. Ammunition

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Phelenwolf, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Phelenwolf

    Phelenwolf New Member

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    I have been searching for some 7.62 NATO ammo and came across some Herter's .308 and was wondering if anyone has used them before. I plan on shooting it through my Cetme and FAL. I have had a hard time finding surplas 7.62 ammo. If anyone knows where I can find some please let me know.
     
  2. fireguy

    fireguy New Member

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    You shouldn't fire .308 in a 7.62x51 chamber. Pressures are higher in the .308 cartridge than in the NATO round.
     

  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I dont think the pressure in NATO 7.62x51 is lower than the pressure in the 308. I have fired both in bolt action rifles and if anything the pressure is higher in the NATO round. There are some problems with 30-06 in Garands.
     
  4. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Please do not promulgate such erroneous information. There is far more to the issue than pressure. Unless you are an expert on the CETME/HK delayed blowback operation, you do not understand the issue.

    Full pressure .308 ammo is not good for the fluted chamber roller rifles. I do not know the FAL so I will not comment except the gas MAY be adjustable enough to compensate for the higher pressure ammo.
     
  5. Phelenwolf

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    From some of the research that I have been doing since I started looking for 7.62 NATO ammo has said that the 7.62 has a higher pressure and a thicker shell caseing plus a shorter overall length which allows it to expand in the chamber. Which allows it to be used in several types of weapons. Where the .308 is slightly longer and thinner for a better fit in the chamber.

    If this is indeed the case I will have to find surplus ammo and that is getting hard to find. Does anyone know which surplus ammo is of good quality to use? I have seen Wolf .308, German, POF, Lithuania, etc and am not sure which is best for shooting out of military surplus rifles.
     
  6. BlueTurf

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    I can better tell you what surplus ammo I would not use. I personally wouldn't use any of the stuff made in India or Pakistan. I do know people who have tried it and they hated it. It didn't shoot very well and they experienced problems with the cases splitting. There was a big variance in the OAL of the rounds from the same batch. They complained about how dirty this ammo left their rifles.

    I have tried the Australian, Portuguese and South African surplus ammo and it worked just fine in my SA NM M1A. I have also used factory .308 ammo and my reloads in my rifle with no problems. The Australian and Portuguese ammo actually produced decent groups shot through my bolt-action Savage 10FLP.

    The problem with 7.62x51 surplus is the lack of availability. As you have discovered it is pretty pricey these days. The 200-rd battle packs I paid $22 for and still have are going for about $120 now if you can find them. Good luck with your ammo search.
     
  7. JTJ

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    The British 7.62x51 were definitely higher pressure than the .308 WW I was shooting. I am glad I did not buy more than 15 rounds. I usually buy only a small quantity of an ammo I want to try before committing to a large purchase.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    Some Austrian, all U.S., all Isreali is reloadable and is very good brass. I've shot lots of German DAG & MEM, South Africian,Portuguese, Isreali, and Lake City(U.S.).
    All has been very good.