Here's hoping this bill passes in TN.

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Ghost1958, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Don't do this:

    https://www.fox13news.com/news/police-florida-man-chases-down-suspected-burglar-shoots-him

    MIAMI - A 28-year-old Florida man who chased an attempted burglar down the street and shot him with an assault-style rifle as he begged for his life has been charged with attempted first-degree murder.

    Corthoris Jenkins told investigators he was playing video games when the man burst into his Miami area apartment on Tuesday, the Miami Herald reported.

    Instead of calling 911, police said Jenkins grabbed the gun and ran after the man, who fell to his knees.
     
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  2. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    The Tn bill doesnt make it legal to chase a theif off your property and off him.
    It does make it legal to shoot the thug caught in the act.
     

  3. jigs-n-fixture

    jigs-n-fixture Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It is not state Land. Federal “Ownership” predates the state of Nevada. Nevada was given their choice of land when they go statehood. The first state Legislature and governor sold most of it to themselves almost immediately after they got statehood.
     
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  4. alsaqr

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    Some Nevada newsie types researched the deeds. The Bundy bunch did not live in that area at the time Bundy claims they came into possession of the land.

    The Bundy bunch have a new gig. They are going around the west preaching hate and discontent over COVID-19 restrictions.
     
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  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Cliven Bundy is much like George Floyd. the world would be a better place without him.
     
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  6. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    It is state land regardless.
    The constitution prohibits land ownweship of land inside a state unless it purchases it from that state and then only for very specfic purposes. None of which apply to the COTUS.
    Kinda like the 2a . The cotus says one thing but some want it to say something else.

    But we are far afield me included.
    I doubt the Tn bill will pass, though it should be the law ecm everywhere.
     
  7. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Rightfully so.
     
  8. oO_Rogue_Oo

    oO_Rogue_Oo Well-Known Member

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    Lets not forget "he" did have the option to not steal. I see no reason that after having something stolen from me I should then be forced into additional financial burden by being forced to support the very same criminal. Surely the irony of that situation is not lost on you.

    And yes I am fully aware of the "business" that i called the US judicial system and how it rates in the world. I am also aware it is in large part due to how "humane" the US is in it's treating of criminals and the fact that many if not most other countries have a more "medieval" approach to justice which would seem to be more effective
     
  9. Missfire

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    So you are saying someone has the right to steal something that doesn't belong to them, so it's better to steal than work for what you want, right?!
     
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  10. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    He is saying that someone should not be put to death for the offense of stealing.
     
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  11. freefall

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    I'm going to lay out the philosophy once and not argue about it for days with all the nitpickers and "yeahbuts".
    Everything I own, I have put a certain portion of my life into earning the money to acquire." yeahbut what about gifts? " ok,someone gave me that portion of Their life.
    At any rate, someone steals something of mine, he is stealing that portion of my life. Should be happen to lose the whole rest of his life in his attempt to take part of mine, he dealt the hand. He has no room to whine if he loses.
     
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  12. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And I thought cutting a thief’s hand off was barbaric. :eek:
     
  13. freefall

    freefall Well-Known Member

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    You think locking him up to be beaten and sodomized for years is compassionate?
     
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  14. fastreb

    fastreb New Member

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    In light of the Supreme Court's ruling in Garner v. TN, I don't think this law will pass. Rather than pass this law, what I'd like to see here in TN is the law changed where you couldn't be sued by the criminal or their estate if the shoot was deemed legal.
     
  15. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    This is a totally different SCOTUS than made that ruling. Wouldnt be the first time SCOTUS reversed itself.
     
  16. fastreb

    fastreb New Member

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    It's true that the make up of the SC now is different than when Garner was decided. However, the SC doesn't reverse itself that often, and in this case, I don't think they would even take up the case. Just look at how often the SC has passed up the chance to set all the lower courts straight on gun rights cases in the last 20 years and you can see they don't take them up but just once in a blue moon.
     
  17. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Define 'innocent'!!!;)
     
  18. freefall

    freefall Well-Known Member

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    Unborn.
     
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  19. towboater

    towboater Well-Known Member

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    When crowds rush into a store and start stealing, nothing will stop them unless some of them get shot. Smash and grab crowds know this. So protecting property, especially during riots should be allowed.