Here is one for the Gurus in the forum.......

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Anna_Purna, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    I just picked at a yard sale a box of bullets in 30. cal.

    They are made by Berger.
    It says they are for a 1 in 11 twist rate or faster. I am reloading for a 1917 Eddystone 30.06, which I believe is a 1 in 10 twist rate.

    My question is WHY do they say for a 1 in 11 twist rate or faster? All the other bullets I have ever seen on the store shelves, Hornady, Speer, Nosler, etc, don't have this warning. What makes these bullets special to have that printed on the box? Will they tumble, or break apart in flight, will they not handle the pressure???? What do you guys think?

    Since I don't use the rifle for hunting, and just 'blowing' up rocks at long distances, can I use them? Or should I get my 5 bucks back?
     
  2. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    P.S. They are 210 Grain Match Grade Boat tail bullets, can't tell if they are hollowpoint, or just FMJ as they have a very tiny hole at the tip.
     

  3. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    1 revolution in 10 inches is faster than 1 revolution in 11 inches, you are GTG.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    berger builds bullets for folks that like to spend a lot of money. they are good bullets but not better than other high end offerings for less money. they just put the recommended twist rate on the box. just something they do.

    a box of bergers for 5$ is what is termed stealing... they sell new 100 for 47.99 on midway
     
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  5. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    Awesum. Guys, thanks a bunch for the info. Looks like I will be reloading this week and busting rocks up by the weekend. :)
     
  6. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    IMO,Walt Berger makes the best bullets in the world.
    I shoot them in every rifle caliber that I shoot. There are better made hunting bullets,but Berger VLD match bullets are bad to the bone.
     
  7. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    They are hollow point.Try some Reloader 22 powder with them if you have any.
     
  8. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    Thats what these are TX, VLD. What makes them bad to the bone? Better precision made, balance, etc?
     
  9. mseric

    mseric New Member

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    From Berger.

    Why Do You Recommend The Slowest Twist?
    Spinning a bullet faster than necessary can amplify any inconsistency in the bullet. Since we use J4 jackets, you can shoot Berger Bullets in faster twist than what is listed. We list the slowest twist rate needed because we want to squeeze every bit of accuracy out of a rifle.

    http://204.197.253.21/wp_super_faq/why-do-you-recommend-the-slowest-twist/

    What Does The Recommended Twist Mean?
    We list a twist rate that will produce the best stability in all situations. Factors like temperature, elevation, and muzzle velocity will affect how a bullet will stabilize. The twist rates we recommend will give you the best stability at the slowest twist possible. The recommended twist is based on a range of velocity so it is a guideline not an absolute requirement.

    http://204.197.253.21/wp_super_faq/what-does-the-recommended-twist-mean/
     
  10. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    All I have is Hodgden 4831 and H4895 powder.